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closedalmost 10 years
[APPEAL] https://www.epicmafia.com/report/148199

i've woken up to come back and see that i've gotten a vio for harassment. i honestly don't believe you classify one sentence i said to jblis as harrassment. it was something that was said out of vented up anger in a scenario in a game. we played a game together right after this and I already moved on and we played the same even if he told me i was reported, i just laughed it off jokingly. telling someone to kill themself irl isnt harassment unless i persistently say that to them every game. this was a throwoff comment based on a sub-optimal play from the "victimised" player which is clear from the game itself. i already explained how i was treated in the game and all clues pointed to me being real bs. but i was just ignored and it let slip. the very fact that this is my first 'harrassment' vio goes to show that i am never someone that carries a grudge beyond the one match. telling someone to kill themselves isn't harassment. please OT this, all i did was react with anger based on that scenario i was in. there was no persistence.
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im not backseat moderating i just think the apology is bad
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Why is Harunan backseat moderating reports? Betmen hasn't got a history of doing this, it was clearly a spur of the moment thing which he retrospectively regrets, he didn't victimize anyone and was tunneled incessantly as the BS since others refused to react. There is a precedent to this. Saying Kill Yourself is no longer an automatic violation from 23 months ago. https://epicmafia.com/report/66381
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https://epicmafia.com/report/148201 - i was linked this about scummycat getting a note for HC for telling someone to kill themselves in a game. i am also told that saying kill yourself is no longer an automatic vio. please see reason here.
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It's all about recognizing we both made mistakes. Jblis doesn't want to admit that which is why I'm annoyed
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"sorry i told you to kill yourself but you were x y z" good apology
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jblispoopy why can't you just admit that you made a mistake without trying to cover your own story with lies and acting like you're the only victim here? I made a mistake too by saying what I did but you must understand that when you ignore someone completely in a game which is about talking things out and convincing people, you are going to invoke a vented up reaction from the second party involved?
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"there is no lying here" lie #2 - jblispoopy says 'She was cruel, mean and actually managed to hurt me for my mishammer. Things like that happen, but she just wouldn't let me go.' - FACT - I did not say anything beyond that one sentence which seems to have adversely affected him - the next game we played together - https://epicmafia.com/game/4316290 - i asked him wtf was wrong with him and why did he ignore me completely - guess what, again i was completely ignored and told i was reported - now keep in mind that the report on me was made RIGHT AFTER that game ended and not this new one - his claim that i "wouldnt let him go" is from the way i apparently treated him in the first game which is a lie because i said nothing beyond that to him - as you can see from the second game, i do not even say anything remotely harmful to anyone. unless the sentence 'if you want to pack a punch, you gotta take a few hits' is harassing then oh my god i have nothing to say to that.
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"there is no lying here" lie #1 - jblispoopy says i have no excuse to act the way i did after she mishammered - FACT - he never had hammer, i had hammer on myself for long period of time after he told everyone to revote me when they unvoted after realizing i am probably real - i tried to talk to him - was ignored COMPLETElY and ended up hammering myself after i said to kill yourself RIGHT BEFORE I hammered on myself.
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Jblispoopy, I already apologized below in this report. Again with you and your selective reading. Clearly here again: I'm sorry if you were hurt by what I said. But that does not excuse your actions in this game either. I think I deserve an apology for the way you treated me that game. You still haven't told me why you tunneled me without giving me a chance let alone respond to my messages directed toward you that game despite all the evidence that supported my claim.
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Im an e-pal of betmen and i not approve this. Free betmen
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Hmmm... if you think that this BS/sheriff setup and that round where you got 7th place (however I see that 8th) is connected somehow, then I facepalm so much because in that round I can't find the BS/sheriff setup. Moreover, it's rare that mafia is cc'ing each other on day start but its observation was obvious and betmen has no reason to cc BS especially as town.
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There is no lying here. I think you should apologize for your behavior. You should have apologized already, but you decided to continue your attack.
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dzanek was in the game with us so i feel he has every right to chime in on why i would say such a thing to you after that whole day of trying to talk to you. you literally ignored me the whole day. and as you said "but she just wouldn't let me go" what are you talking about? after i said that, the game was over the next night. what else did I say to you after that one sentence out of anger??? and let's get this clear you didnt 'mishammer' i had hammer on myself and after i tried talking sense to you, you didnt respond AT ALL to my messages and kept the votes on me. if i really hurt you then gosh i'm sorry. But i never did or said anything else to "harass" you after that so stop lying about the details.
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And i was 7th in the last round. Where were you dzanek? You called me a noob, but I don't see you anywhere. I rewatched the game and 997/1000 i would have hammered betmen.
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betmen, can you bring even more of your e-pals to defend you? This is getting hilarious and out of hand. dzanek is crying about my game, when betmen didn't cc day 1 when 6 votes were on someone else by the fake bs. And to be honest this has nothing to do with the way she acted after my mishammer. She was cruel, mean and actually managed to hurt me for my mishammer. Things like that happen, but she just wouldn't let me go. It was a horrible experience to watch someone wish me to commit suicide. I have never seen it again in my life. I am disgusted.
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Tbh I feel jblis was a moron and I understand betmen, but jblis still blind that he still believed betmen was scum after he got lynched, he ignored us all, it's worse harassment than betmen's... if betmen harassed him... because there might be still doubts.
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I just laugh that betmen got punished for such thing. I understand betmen getting annoyed, I even told in game STRONG reason why betmen's cc isn't real BS, but jblis seemed to ignore that all. Even betmen's cc slipped in this way and the sheriff kill proved this all, nobody even mentioned it could wifom'd and jblis was really a noob insta-voting betmen after he claimed BS D2. He outed legit reason why he didn't out D1 and jblis must've understood, but he didn't because he blindly voted betmen ignoring all reads even when I looked how I told the reason why betmen's cc is fake, he said nothing about this, even gy confirmed him as noob.
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crap! thanks moocow. https://epicmafia.com/report/148194 this is the report instead.
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You linked the wrong report