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in fact, we can just use a random system to pick the cop anyway.

okay but there are situations where we can eliminate the impact of random mafias. For example. One cop gets inno and one cop gets a guilty (not on the CC or on the inno). In this case we take the inno and let him have a guess and there's a 50/50.
Other situations are double innos and double guilties from the cops.
I'm not saying it's always better (which is why i NL a lot) but it's definitely the better option far more often than it is executed (which is close to never).

Hmm.. it's 25% chance town correctly lynches on the cop CC 6-mylo (given that maf cop didn't say a blue/doc was guilty) if doc doesnt out.. it's 1/6 chance for doc save if NL and mafs don't kill cop.. it's 50% chance town correctly lynches on 5-lylo with uncc doc, 40% chance pure random no clears, very low if biased RL. And then of course 25% on 3-lylo with no clears. But yeah, all human elements not considering, lynching cops on 6-mylo is same as 3-lylo with no clears, mathematically (except a 1/6 chance doc save can salvage town after ml on 6-mylo)

idk what u guys are arguing about, but LESPAR

CONGRATZ ON HAVING AN AVI

i still maintain the cop lynch during mylo is better a lot of the time. If we NL the mafia will be alive for the lylo lynch anyway and their vote will have a larger impact on the outcome.
The double CC is actually quite interesting. Logically it looks like maf win 2/3 of the time. Might have to try it out some time.

that last one was just point of interest lol. anyway you have shown that odds of town winning after cop die n1 to be MUCH higher than I had thought. I didn't think it was possible for 3 unclear 2 mafs to have an unbiased RL but I assume it's done in the pros! I only played a week

finally, have u considered the odds for both mafia CCing cop after blue/doc dies? 6-MYLO, nobody refracts, (I said 5-MYLO before, I meant LYLO), NL, then dont kill cop. what are the odds for mafia? I have a feeling it's the exact same as only 1 maf CCing, mathematically

also regarding the 5-lylo with 2 mafs, the mafs don't have to just jump and vote one. normally the 2 mafs would fos each other, fos everyone, then independently come to conclusion that the same blue is most likely guilty

i think coplynch on mylo favors mafia though because one of the voters is biased (maf). also NL buys more time for more scumhunting, cuz reactions after night ends can be telling

Lespar that is genius! I've never seen or thought of that! If u can get an unbiased RL without outting doc, it is perfect. 1/6 is better than 1/8 for sure. :)

the lynch on cop in mylo is fine. You're neglecting the 50/50 chance of actually hitting the cop in mylo.

also lynching cop on mylo is bad. even if doc saves, it'll be 2 mafs 2 clears 1 unclear. odds heavily favor maf. and that's given that doc saves (which is only 1/4). but im glad to see someone else actually understand that 3-way LYLO is terrible for town if no clears

the problem with using the 3 man lylo argument in the 5 man lylo situation is that with two mafia partners a biased vote is very easy for the town to pick up on.
It is also possible to guarantee a 2/5 doing a completely random system (if the mafia don't give themselves away).
ex// all players choose a random number. These numbers are added up and divided by 5. Check the remainder to see which player is lynched.

your reasoning for why 3-way lylo is 25% actually disproves your reasoning of why doc should not out on 1doc 2blue 2maf -- it's not 2/5 if doc doesn't claim -- like i said it's 5.2%, or a bit higher than 1/20. this is cuz out of the 5 votes, 2 are unbiased (mafia) of course, like the 25% statistic, this is excluding all human factors like dumb town (man do u see that a lot) and scumtells

hey ur absolutely right about the 25% for no clear 3-way lylo. i actually didn't see your profile in game. also 5.2% for 5-way no clear mylo. crazy huh? so if cop and doc die n1 n2, it's 1.3% overall odds of winning for town.

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