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Jury Mod Poll

over 5 years

FAKE CLAIMING

This is just a crash test to see how it would go.

Everyone rest your vote in the No Violation area until you are ready to vote.

NCRAW / Alyssa - you don't vote just monitor. Or one of you can act as a the head juror and suggest who you want to add or remove, head juror can vote.

Also this wouldn't be in a forum this would be on the report page itself if the dev coded it.

For this let's say a mod needs 9 votes to make a decision instead of 13.

If you are wondering what this is refer to this thread ... https://epicmafia.com/topic/92559?page=1

Current Report Link

https://epicmafia.com/game/7013178

https://epicmafia.com/report/271133

Vote for the current report below...
7
Note
5
Violation
5
No Violation
0
Ban
over 5 years
------- Reseting for Round 2 ------- Will have to make a new thread.

Final final was 37.5 Note, 31.3% No Vio and 31.3% Vio.
over 5 years
The only suggestion I see plausible for this going forward, is if the mods wanted a Jury in the future for hard reports and host them in secret like this, to be discussed. I just don't see it being coded.
over 5 years
Ok, superspooky, I can change that to a Note vote. This is literally a test run and the first time ever doing this, so there is a learning curve.
over 5 years
i initially did no vio because of what superspooky was saying but they had enough time to retract and sinB asked for confirmation so he could shoot correctly but they didnt retract before the shot. just seems like trolling to me because they DID end up retracting and probably were just afk before they could retract in time? so I'd only give a note.
over 5 years
Bruh 6 votes for vio....
Okay a note I could understand


Should be NV though.
over 5 years
I feel like this would go like the VAR in football.
It will definitely go wrong sometimes cuz if you look at how the percentages are, 1 vote could completely change the report and then if it's handled wrong we'll get the blame. So my conclusion: I like the system but I think there are still flaws that could be worked out.


MafiaGod, reading your comments you pretty much vio because she is a veteran player, rather then the report itself. You are not looking at the report itself you only mention things from the past. So you already handle the report wrong. Okay so she did GT in the past, that has very little to do with this report. She got viod for it in the past and you leave it and that. Sure, you can take it into account when you handle the report but yeah... don't let that decided the outcome rather then the violation itself. It is not isp, cuz then every other player in the game who talked way less should get an ISP vio according to you which it completely isn't. But ok you changed it to almost so you agree with my text on that part. Sure, she could have tried harder I agree with that but I don't think you should get viod for trying a strategy ( it was bad, I'll say that but a vio is overkill ) and it did lead to a loss for town but she did retract and reading the lines she said, it wasn't on purpose. It will never be a violation.
over 5 years
For this report I would Note it according to the Poll.

Violation 33%
No Violation 41.7%
Note 25%

I think that will be the final for it after 12 votes.
over 5 years
Flashbar says .... "Includes fake claims made for any other purpose than strategy"

Town moved too quickly for her to explain why she claimed, but in the little time she did have it didn't look like there was a serious attempt to justify herself, either. But not enough time = can't prove intention beyond a reasonable doubt. Therefore no vio
over 5 years
A majority vote of Vio/Ban or a First Time Offense, Multiple or Major Offense, always gets looked at by a mod.

It would be the Head Juror's job to make sure the Juror's votes are taking it seriously by periodically checking games. If he notices a Juror being a noob about even games that should be violated in order to save friends over 5 times within 3 months they can demod the Juror as needed.
over 5 years
So right now it is ...
If it was 33% Vio
33% No Vio
33% Note
Then as a mod I would Note it and move on.

If it was
25% No Vio
25% Note
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25% Vio
25% Ban
Then as a mod I would mod it myself and read the game.
over 5 years
Example:

MafiaGod
Total Reports 411
Reports Last Week 32
No Violations Voted For 200
Notes Voted For 109
Violations Voted For 102
Violations Voted For Last Week 4

(Bans would be rolled into Viotations. I am saying Violations are Warnings and Bans are Suspensions, we can reword that if need be to No Violation, Note // First Time Offense, Multiple or Major Offense, because some infractions even if a first time offense can be more severly dealt with.)
over 5 years
So like if I go to https://epicmafia.com/moderator and click on leb, I get this,

leb
Total Reports 466
Reports Last Week 10
Violations Given 157
Violations Given Last Week 1
Total Actions 184
Actions Last Week 13
Actions without Reason 3

Top 10 Violation Given by leb

Top 10 Actions by leb

We would have the same thing but for Juror votes, to include a section that says
Outcome Accuracy
No Vios 80% 8/10
Vios 30% 3/10
Notes 70% 7/10
Bans 10% 1/10
Overall = 19 / 40 = 48%
over 5 years
I will be stepping down as Site Juror if this case goes unpunished. I'm sorry. My ethics come first.
over 5 years
Had she cared she may have been upset at her boy in blue being gunned down. Rather she "lol"ed it off. There's a clear contempt for the spirit of the game.
over 5 years
My reason is that she was not trying to win the game. It does not appear to be that she cared about her win condition. She is GUILTY.
over 5 years
I kid I kid
over 5 years
I have not provided my thought process as of yet but I will have you know it is vast.
over 5 years

MafiaGod says

See thecolonel is already on his way to losing his Juror status! The system works lol!


excus me?
over 5 years
See thecolonel is already on his way to losing his Juror status! The system works lol!
over 5 years
Sentence: a stern talking-to
over 5 years
Vote it then :P
over 5 years
GUILTY.
over 5 years
Maybe have a set of test questions to make sure your jurors are competent enough to even be jurors? We actually used to do that with mods at some point in the past.
over 5 years
Like, I am probably not right about this and I might change my mind to Note, not every Juror is going to have a 100% win right on this, which is good, but the majority should have it right.
over 5 years
If it was 51% Vio
39% No Vio
10% Note
Then as a mod I would mod it.