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why lock the mental illness thread

almost 6 years

"The type of people who use Epicmafia aren't the type of people to have complex and nuanced discussions with" is the official mod reason for locking that thread. REALLY funny meme man, but is it a sincere reason to lock a thread that did have complex, nuanced discussion going on?

I think Bebop saw a large thread about a serious topic and assumed there was harassment or vitriol going on, and there really wasn't - especially in the last few pages. We were having a perfectly civil conversation about this complex topic, complete with links to sources and all. I don't know why the mod team is so against debates, especially ones that are going well and are giving the site activity. But for real, Ally showed up to end this discussion on the lobby wall and said to make a topic about it instead, that happened, and then the topic got locked.

I understand if there's insults being flung left and right and it's a shi­tshow, but that just wasn't the case here. The only real insults there were the ones directed at me like "childfuc­ker", and while I certainly resent those insults, they come from a place of emotion and not malice and I can at least understand the anger behind them. No one was upset by any insults, is my point, and there were only a few scattered across the thread.

So can a representative of the team explain to me what was so bad about that debate that mod action had to be taken? Like I get the "can't talk about complex issues on EM" meme, but it's just a meme, not a justification for ending discussions.

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somethingwhatever says

>after some research
>links to UD
u really cant make this shit up, i love this website

almost 6 years
>after some research
>links to UD
u really cant make this shit up, i love this website
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Bramble says

again, youre still trying to argue that its the childs fault for being sexually attractive to adults


I never said that because I'm not talking about children, I'm talking about drawings. At this point that's been established.
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I like how 90% of topics that most people have debates about can be solved by just googling the topic and reading the first thing that pops up
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Bramble says

lolis are underage girls go ahead and google image search "loli" and tell me what you find lol


I've ALWAYS heard it in context to drawn po/rnography of minors, and that was definitely the way Othet was using it. After some searching on the Internet, it seems there's some variance on how the term is used, but most people use it to refer to drawings:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lolicon
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carmen really doesnt know what a loli is, tries to argue that theres nothing wrong with the term

more at 11
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again, youre still trying to argue that its the childs fault for being sexually attractive to adults
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shint says

screenshot or didn't happen
i remember quite well the previous threads about this


The first thread about pedophilia was a while ago, and in that thread I wrongfully said lolis can be helpful. I said that because there's nothing wrong with loli (drawn) on a moral level, but I now see that those pictures despite not being immoral don't help those with the condition from getting cured from it at all, and in fact probably makes their condition worse.

https://i.imgur.com/YVKtRAx.png

Here's the recent screenshot where I said this
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lolis are underage girls go ahead and google image search "loli" and tell me what you find lol
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Bramble says

and with that statement youre saying that its the childs fault for being attractive to adults


Lolis are drawn pictures. They aren't immoral, as no drawing can be, but I don't believe they help pedophiles "have a safe way to release their urges" like some do. I think it just makes children even more sexualized to them, which is the opposite of what treatment is supposed to accomplish.
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screenshot or didn't happen
i remember quite well the previous threads about this
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and with that statement youre saying that its the childs fault for being attractive to adults
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lolis are underage girls
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shint says

you say All That but one of the people on your side loudly and proudly produces "lolicon"
oh wait you yourself have said you have no objections to that


I already disagreed with him, but even he isn't advocating child abuse. Where are you getting that I have no objections?

Carmen6h 1m
That being said, I don't believe lolis actually help those born with the condition, and indeed probably just bolsters them and makes them see children as more sexualized.
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what yall think of woody allen banging his step daughter
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Bebop says

its not their fault uwu give them head pats for not fucking kids

leave


???

No idea what this is even supposed to mean, is it too much to ask to make your rebuttals comprehensible?

No one is giving anyone head pats for not fuc­king kids. The EXPECTATION is that you don't fuc­k kids. All I've argued is that those with the condition alone shouldn't be demonized and given death threats.Treating a human being who has done nothing wrong as if they're a human being who has done nothing wrong is far from giving them a "head pat". God, you're a joke.
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you say All That but one of the people on your side loudly and proudly produces "lolicon"
oh wait you yourself have said you have no objections to that
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its not their fault uwu give them head pats for not fucking kids

leave
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"children use this site" dude we literally debated this topic in HS debate club, if a public school thinks talking about this mental illness is okay I'm pretty sure social network about guns, lynching, murder, and lying is okay too.
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Bebop says

if you want a discussion go have it elsewhere, you don't have a god given right to defend pedophiles on epicmafia.com and if a discussion is truly all you want the format shouldn't matter

children use this site and as such i don't think this discussion is appropriate


No one ever defended pedophiles, once again. I have a right to talk about things that don't break any rules, and you do NOT have a right, as a servant of the community, to abuse your power to end discussions that break no rules.

It was a discussion about mental illness, not child predators. You guys keep trying to misrepresent my arguments and pretend that ANYONE was ever defending pedophiles. I defended their right, as a human, to not be executed when they committed no crimes.

If anything, it was a thread about how easily sensitive topics like children can make people absolutely lose their minds and call for the execution of innocents.
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if you want a discussion go have it elsewhere, you don't have a god given right to defend pedophiles on epicmafia.com and if a discussion is truly all you want the format shouldn't matter

children use this site and as such i don't think this discussion is appropriate
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Of course he won't budge, but if we get a community that's actively criticizing the corrupt tactics of the mods instead of cheering them on for it, we may get a team that's a bit less cavalier and open about performing those tactics.
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You're really not annoying, babe. But we don't elect our mods. It's literally an oligarchy, and site hierarchy is set up to perpetuate that.

Only saying this to save you your own time; since I know bebop won't budge. Know when to roll over.
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Bebop says

you sound like jamal marley lmfao


Okay? Any response to what I just said that makes a modicum of sense?

You just PROVED you didn't read the thread you took mod action against and people still upvoting you lmao. Like I said, this site earns the moderation it deserves.
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pls lock this thread