about 6 years

As many of you might know by now, I'm leaving EM. Tomorrow will be my last day playing, for those who might want to play with me.

As for the reasons, there's not just one, it's several, from trolls, gt accounts, bad modding (you've seen various examples lately, also here on the forums) and I decided I won't stand all of it anymore.

Before leaving, I'll leave the current mod/admin team some tips and suggestions (on different topics):

Quoting what Giga said in another discussion: "In terms of lobbies things are fine right now, imo. There are currently not enough users active on a regular basis for more than one lobby to thrive. Splitting Main Lobby would probably just make both of the new lobbies less populated and make it harder to get frequent games going.

I think expanding the mentor program and getting people to join it (maybe through some type of incentive for mentors and mentees) might be a good way to get people to try playing mafia more again. It helps new users try and get better and may get them to enjoy playing the game more.

Fixing problems like excessive hateful comments and harassment by adding harsher penalties, especially in red heart or unranked games where most newer players play, might get people to stop shying away from mafia games or Epicmafia in general, as sometimes toxicity causes people to not want to play--especially new people. Imagine coming to a new games website only for people to be extremely rude to you in the first few games. Why would you want to come back?

I don't have much to say right now, but these are just a couple of ideas. I love the community giving their ideas, it's wonderful to see and to have a good discussion about site happenings."

Unfortunately, I have to agree with Giga on (all of) this.

Some things that could help the site to improve (in different ways) imho:

  1. Fixing problems like excessive hateful comments and harassment by adding harsher penalties, especially in red heart or unranked games where most newer players play,

  2. Rewriting (IN A CLEAR WAY) all the rules, separating them and defining the key terms (for ex. hipfiring, which isn't defined yet, in the rules)

  3. Create an introduction for new players so that when they first login on EM, they know what they have to do, where to go (play 5 unranked games, that those are to "train" for ranked, what are the basic roles, where to find more info about roles /learn tab, etc)

  4. Bring the Wiki back? I have a link to an archive on the old Wiki, if you do want to bring it back, I could pm JonSnow the link and you could start from there.

  5. Potentiate the Mentor/Mentee program, make it more visible (not only on the forums, new players don't browse them) and put a limit to mentees per mentor (3? 5? no more)

  6. When you have (in the future) enough players to do so, separate lobbies again. Training (the actual Main) for Unranked and Red Hearts and Competitive for the Competition and make the system competitive again.

If I come up with more before leaving EM, I'll edit the post.

I really hope EM improves in the future, but there are no clues of it.

I've had a good game in my 5 years here, it was well played. I'll miss this place, I don't doubt it, and I'll miss many of the friends I made here, but I won't come back.

Bye, Guy

about 6 years

Songin says

You know, I always liked playing with you. You'll be missed, that's for sure! Hopefully one day when you come back the site has improved a lot.


I did like to play with you too, Song. It was a very long and good game.


Shwartz99 says

I offered this to you before, and I'll say it again: retire to sandbox, where you can live free!

In any case, I wish you the best in life, I know you're a good person. I won't forget the fun times we had together.

Shwartz99


I thank you a lot for the offer, but I can't accept for two reasons:
1. I would still be on EM, tempted to go to Main
2. I'd rage even more about how bad people play :D
I have to leave :'(
Guy


blueheidi says

I think you speak for a lot of people when you mention the things wrong with this site. EM has room to improve and frankly needs to; otherwise it'll continue to decline in user base and quality of games. Because I love EM and want more people to know its worth I want it to improve. It's a serious matter and I don't think you're being overly dramatic at all. Also, let no one belittle your concerns and values. If you even care about what others say. Hope you have a good leave and like Songin said I hope EM is better if you come back one day.


I know I do speak for many people who don't browse the forums or just aren't active on them when I mention the things wrong with this site. If EM doesn't improve, more ***mafia will rise to compete against it and EM will keep losing players, either to see them migrate to these other websites or just to see them leave. I hope that instead of keeping adding new useless roles the admins will try to fix what's wrong with the website, for the good of EM.

Good luck everyone.
about 6 years

Pinks says

Love you, Guy. You're one of the good ones - totally support your decision, go and enjoy real life!


That's exactly the idea :) All the time that would end up here on EM will go to real life.


Pinks says

This site has become total garbage overrun by toxic a'ssholes and trolls. Not a day passes where one of the bullies' crew harrasses others or gets into arguments. You can barley get through a game anymore.. This sh'it is not being moderated harshly enough. I'm stepping back too for very similar reasons.


See OP for my opinion.


Rubberduckzilla says

No Guy, one of my oldest friends :(
It's really sad to see that you are leaving and I do hope it's only temporary, maybe come back after a short (very short) break and hopefully see some improvements if the mods and admins take your comments into account.

It would be sad to see you go pal, please do reconsider and I wish you all the best in the meantime <3


Rubber, my dear friend,

As I said in another comment, last time was temporary and I've been away for around 6-7 months, this time will probably not be. I'm very said that I'm leaving, but it's time.
All the best,
Guy
about 6 years

MonteCarrlo says

why couldn't you leave without saying anything, leave and learn how to not whine about everything. It is a game on a mafia website full of weirdos, why do you have any expectations


1. I couldn't leave without saying anything because of mainly 2 reasons:
a) in case I was hacked
b) so you know if someone is playing as GuyFawkes85 it's not me (for meta reads)

2. I tend to give all I can and care a lot about all I do so probably that's why I have expectations, even when I play on a website full of weirdos.


Elfen says

Well we didn't play together a lot. But surely you were a distinct personality. I hope that we have you back someday :) farewell


I loved playing with you. I don't think I'll be back, but if I ever am, I hope to find a better place. Good luck on EM and life.


Potubs123 says

Bye guy we'll miss you, I enjoyed the few games we played together over the years. Especially the day we played the 9 in 1 setup roll (forget the name). It's been a good run, and good luck staying away been hard for me.


We played quite a lot and I enjoyed playing with you. I think you're talking about Darker than Black (which has 6 setups, not 9 :P). Last time I was away from EM for about 6-7 months, but I knew it was temporary. This time I'll block the site and just forget it, I doubt I'll come back. Good luck, enjoy life.
deletedabout 6 years
if mods are able to cheat, and abuse powers, no point in being around, i feel ya pain
about 6 years
"as sometimes toxicity causes people to not want to play--especially new people. Imagine coming to a new games website only for people to be extremely rude to you in the first few games. Why would you want to come back?"

^ This.

Ive just rerturned after stopping playing for a few years and im rusty as hell. I cant remember how to play and how the roles work.
Ive made some mistakes and got absolutely destroyed for it.

No matter how hard I apologised I was belittled and made to feel unwelcome.
Luckily Ive had a few great people give me patience
about 6 years
Love you guy <3 I'll add you as promised
deletedabout 6 years
Why do i HIGHLY agree with this....
about 6 years

admin says


yachi says

is this a paid position


alas EM is not a million dollar funded valley startup lol..

but it could be an internship opportunity lol, to be put on your portfolio and all


i know you got the funds
about 6 years

admin says


yachi says

is this a paid position


alas EM is not a million dollar funded valley startup lol..

but it could be an internship opportunity lol, to be put on your portfolio and all


FrEe ExPoSuRe has arrived at EpicMafia dot com and you don't even need to post in pics please
about 6 years
GOOD RIDDANCE
about 6 years

yachi says

is this a paid position


alas EM is not a million dollar funded valley startup lol..

but it could be an internship opportunity lol, to be put on your portfolio and all
about 6 years
is this a paid position
deletedabout 6 years
you will be missed , don't see why you need to quit EM, take an extended break if anything.............
about 6 years

cowboy says


admin says

calling all designers lol


hi are you commissioning


herro
about 6 years

admin says

calling all designers lol


hi are you commissioning
about 6 years
calling all designers lol
about 6 years

Nohacs says

I think redesigning the Epicmafia Page to be more user freindly will help a lot, sometimes things are too complicated and having it redesigned to being more modern and sleek would be cool! :D


yea agreed!
about 6 years
hey Nohacs, how do you keep breaking the avatar upload?
about 6 years
I think redesigning the Epicmafia Page to be more user freindly will help a lot, sometimes things are too complicated and having it redesigned to being more modern and sleek would be cool! :D
about 6 years
Don't go pleaseeeeeeeeeee. We need you here to keep this thriving. I didn't want to see this happen :(
about 6 years
Bye Guy!
about 6 years
I think you speak for a lot of people when you mention the things wrong with this site. EM has room to improve and frankly needs to; otherwise it'll continue to decline in user base and quality of games. Because I love EM and want more people to know its worth I want it to improve. It's a serious matter and I don't think you're being overly dramatic at all. Also, let no one belittle your concerns and values. If you even care about what others say. Hope you have a good leave and like Songin said I hope EM is better if you come back one day.
about 6 years
I offered this to you before, and I'll say it again: retire to sandbox, where you can live free!

In any case, I wish you the best in life, I know you're a good person. I won't forget the fun times we had together.

Shwartz99
about 6 years
You know, I always liked playing with you. You'll be missed, that's for sure! Hopefully one day when you come back the site has improved a lot.
about 6 years

GuyFawkes85 says

I enjoyed a lot to play with you, schutze, and you over almost everyone else should know this post isn't fake dramatic at all.


Not sure I understand why. If you don't think it's fake, then it's unnecessarily dramatic.

GuyFawkes85 says

I might have taken EM too seriously, maybe, but I take everything seriously, if I do something, I want to do it well or just not do it. That's (part of) why I decided to leave.


Everything? Jeez.