if i was owner again i wouldnt have lobby mods (remember when i was the first person to propose no lobby mods but everyone said it was a bad idea) but clique 2...... damn....
TY. If closed roles get removed from main, you only risk killing sandbox further.
Now, I will clarify here that a sandboxer is someone who only really wants to play closed role setups, and a mainer is someone who is open to closed role games, but usually wants to play ranked or typical setups and wouldn't go out of their way to go over to sandbox to play one.
Here is someting that happens. >It is 1pm eastern time. >There are 8 sandboxers on, and 5 mainers. > A 12p can fill in main, but not in sandbox.
But what if this happens: >It is noon, eastern time >There are 7 sandboxers on, 6 mainers. >a 12 p can fill in main, but not in sandbox. >ranked games are not allowed in sandbox >the 7 sandboxers move to sandbox >can not even fill an 8p
It needs to be a good while before closed roles are not allowed in main. You say "it's better to at least try something, because obviously allowing closed roles in Main isn't making people migrate to Sandbox." Maybe that's because there aren't enough of us? We're doing closed roles in main so we can catch a few stray people who otherwise wouldn't join, so that our games can actually fill. If we're forced to use sandbox, there is a distinct possibility that we just sit in games that don't fill until people get bored and just gradually stop using the site.
4) Im sorry, YOU are going to go around advertising sandbox games? Someone who actively sh*t on vivor lobby for doing that with their games and ORGs and even on myself with SBBB? And now you are going to do that? At the very least i would like an apology here if you are going to be doing what you criticized before. 5) memers as sandbox owners have never rly worked before except for chris' first ownership but whatever 6) i do like and approve the idea of rotating minigames, but if you remember properly in the past that had lead to people ignoring mafia to play minigames and really the games lobby community is at least 80% sandbox anyways so it wouldnt make a difference to "save the lobby" 7) why would you add lobby mods right now when the community is basically dead?, At the moment it would seem useless and just away to stroke the ego of certain people and we all know how that has gone in the past. What will be your system to picking the mods? Is this something you plan on implementing right away or will you wait to see if you can indeed revive the community?,
All that being said despite me disagreeing or otherwise not liking points 2 through 7, i do believe point 1 is the most important thing that dooze was not doing properly and if you put it first i would assume its one of your main objectives and thus i wish you good luck with the lobby despite firmly believing that theres not much you can really do. Lucid murdered the site with the euro ban and thats not doozes or yours fault but really you would need to get very lucky to actually reviving it and keeping it alive more than a few days
Hello i wasnt around much the last few days so i missed out on your post in time. I do have a few bones to pick and ask you about, i will reply to your 7 points that you made in your thread
1) Nothing to say, keep it up. 2) do you realize removing passworded games is nothing but a sh*tty thing to do to people who enjoy those? They will NOT join the sb community because of that, they are NOT part of the sb community they are just people that want to play with their friends and removing that option is just sh*tty. 3) You do know that they made closed roles available in main BECAUSE sandbox was dead not viceversa right? So really the only people that would join the community would be the people who started enjoying them in main and would move bc theres no choice, which are probably not too many, though overall wouldnt be that bad of an idea.
who's going to vote? the 10 persons who go on lobby wall just to say "wow sandbox is dead" while they never even were active users when there were games running all the time? those people do not represent sandbox population, while :thinking: is definitely part sandbox meta culture
