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"The set up is a troll set up"

about 6 years

https://epicmafia.com/report/256278

Stand in defense of Sinister Sundown and please don't let charley blacklist it. I don't see how anyone can play it, read the strats, and come to the conclusion it's a troll setup. The whole point of the setup is a vicious, unforgiving scumhunt where mafia has to cc the right roles and do some townhunting themselves. It's awesome and it's only because of trolls like Desultory that it has a bad name. If you wait for the illu shot, let yourself die as dep without shooting, and do other protown tactics, it's so balanced and fun.

about 6 years
all these little weirdos coming in to defend reverse mafia lol
about 6 years
Yes this definitely is NOT a troll setup. It's not as good as Carmen thinks it is. But blacklisting is not justified. Glad it was overturned.
about 6 years
Mission complete, this is now un-blacklisted! Thanks for all the support, from both the community and the mods (except charley). Don't hipfire thanks!
about 6 years
Shame on you for destroying the progressive, creative spirit of the community that's supposed to be driving it forward. You want to stay in the past and disallow unique, balanced setups to flourish.
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i'm all for blacklisting jfk
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this setup sucks but if ur gonna allow other trash setups like jfk then this shouldn’t be blacklisted
about 6 years

Kawaii says

Fairly sure this is still in discussion so stay tuned. :p


Any updates?
about 6 years
no mods = better websites

"these people are consensually playing a setup that has a strat we dont like. better stop everyone from playing it! REEEEEEEEEEEE"

You realize in jfk the sniper and mafia can just yolo kill/shoot too right? Why not blacklist that?
about 6 years
shame on u mods i did not unblacklist this setup as my final act just for u to undermine meeeeeeeee
about 6 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/6715737

look at games like this and tell me SS is a pointfarm
about 6 years
why worry so much about following some strat to the t? is the simple joy of gamethrowing really that insidious?
about 6 years
troll setup
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if jfk isn't blacklisted sinister sundown shouldn't either
about 6 years
"49- Everytime Carmen suggests some dumb strategy everyone takes a shot"


-Epicmafia Drinking Game, 2018
about 6 years
now now carmen, don't badmouth revmaf just to get your setup out of the hook :doge: it has a more balanced winrate% than SS.

with that being said, blacklisting SS is dumb, "hipfire setup" is only said by people who just look at the roles and never actually played it.

-It's decent, a bit mafsided sure....but in a world where frontier justice 2 gets regularly comped, and thriller/jfk exist for fun, i don't see why this setup would be punished.

-There is potential for town dumb play, and so what? This round people comped memehunt, where there is a full blown pinned thread explaining people why you can get a GT vio if you try to lynch in threeway as only town with maf/killer, and 36 other scenarios, and pointing that showing this topic in a game isn't OGI....that's overly specific and tryhard. and this setup is COMPED. the only thing with SS is that if deputy shoots town first, then it's gg. this is WAY easier to understand, yet enough to blacklist the setup? please.

There are other popular setups where town can make really dumb plays yet the setup can still be played (mimic n1 in ddp, voting in paralyser setups...) and if a town fudges things up, it's his fault, end of story. Why can't it be the same?
about 6 years
Sinister Sundown, one of the most fun and interesting setups of our day

Extremely balanced if you play it right, it's definitely harder for town to win than something like GNH but it makes you think a lot harder.
about 6 years
SS isn't even that bad. If JFK can stay, then so can Sinister Sundown.
about 6 years
Reverse Mafia is a must have setup, without it we won't have as many gamethrow accounts in comped.
about 6 years

20tokensplz says

what the is reverse mafia and SS? please link me both


https://epicmafia.com/setup/4545
https://epicmafia.com/setup/1342291
about 6 years
what the is reverse mafia and SS? please link me both
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I don't share the sentiment towards the Reverse Mafia setup but I do think SS is a fine enough setup.

That's it. If anything, it changes the lobby a bit since all people play nowadays is f*cking G&H and just who isn't tired of that already?
about 6 years
Fairly sure this is still in discussion so stay tuned. :p
about 6 years
OH, it actually got blacklisted, for a THIRD time. Let's unblackist it, for a THIRD time. Stop shi­tting over this amazing setup, it's useless in unranked because everyone will just hipfire.

You can't blacklist a setup just because you don't like it. It has hundreds of games played, plenty of fans who play it legitimately, and if you don't like it, just don't play it.

REVERSE MAFIA, which everyone admits is a pointfarm where you just sit around waiting to be converted is fine but this setup that actually makes you play and think is banned? Fuc­k charley for campaigning against a great standby setup that's not G&H.