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the whole nike bullshit

about 6 years

what do you think?

so nike had this guy who kneeled during the nfl in a campaign and people are mad
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i couldnt care less
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currently burning my nikes
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fucking white people...
about 6 years
The fact that Colin Kaepernick endorses Nike isn't nearly as bad as the fact that Nike supports the stuff Kaepernick has done.

I know people will try to disagree with me by saying, "look idiot, it doesn't mean they support what he does", but in all reality I don't think a company on that scale has been living under a rock for the past three years, and they are totally aware of what this guy started, meaning they are also now allowing themselves to associate with that (not the best idea in my opinion)

If you read my last post, I state that I am against most neo-arguments and neo-movements such as "Third-Wave Feminism" or "Black Lives Matter", and all that other crap. According to Kaepernick, he says that he kneeled because he didn't feel as though he was getting the ideal American experience because of "injustices to minority populations".

I have done plenty of research, and all around I see it isn't unfair treatment to the entire population of them, it is far-fetched interpretations of unfair treatment to individuals. But our society is a litigious society that deals on the "victim's" end of the story. That gives people the subconscious idea to play the "blame game", "victim card", or whatever.
about 6 years
you focking WHAT
about 6 years
SJWs that advocate for stuff like feminism, racial inequality movements, and LGBT rights need to shut up and listen to facts. Change my mind.

I would make an AMA for this, but nobody would respond to it, so I would be better off stirring drama in a forum made by a mainstream(ish) user.
about 6 years
friendly reminder that JJ Watt personally paid for every funeral in the Santa Fe shooting, raised $37 Million for Hurricane Harvey relief, among so many other charity cases he's taken on to give back to the community, and we're giving Colin Kappernick awards for doing absolutely nothing. literally. he kneeled. W O W . making the world a better place one lazy a s s h o l e at a time. If he really wants to make a difference, he has the resources and certainly has the money, yet all he can manage to do is complain and disrespect the national anthem.


no thanks, Nike isn't getting my money anytime soon.
I always preferred adidas anyway.
about 6 years
terry telling ppl to shut up.... so much for the tolerant right :/
about 6 years

Harkinian says

Even adjusting for PPP, the average wage in Bangladesh is ~$1,500 p/a and the conditions people live in reflect that.
Compared to other Bangladeshis you might be doing well on $3k a year but you're still living without the infrastructure that a more developed country would have, so I don't think you can give Nike a pass for being simply so gracious as to give them 'working opportunities'


The infrastructure isn't going to be built by the people though, it'll be built by the government. And since capitalism will always have a rich guy and a poor guy, and capitalism is the dominant market system, Bangladesh will continue to be that poor guy. The only way to get past this is to get rid of capitalism.


Rydia says


blacksnakemoan says

It could be argued that because Nike is talking on social issues and not class issues, they're not being hypocrites with this ad.


class issues are social issues


You quoted half the point. Bangladeshis are not Americans, and class issues in Bangladesh don't qualify as social issues in America, and they never will unless the nation state structure is overthrown
about 6 years
"anything pro-BLM garners media attention"

yeah okay, and?

literally what
about 6 years
I don't use r/latestagecapitalism, and I hardly use reddit so that's a weird comment

And i mentioned Jameson and Bauman, only one of which is a "marxist" and even that link is tenuous and misleading at best since marxists and postmodernists are generally at each other's throats so i don't get the conflation

"it's a contradiction and it's because people are fixated on fixing racial problems"

did you ever consider that my pointing out that a company making an ad based around a recent racial row in the NFL is an argument against liberalism? The revolutionary potential of the act has been castrated by finance capital by being included within its logics, and that's incontestable to anybody outside of liberal circles, including both you and me

I don't know why you're so set on reducing "late capitalism" to buzzword status when it appears you have no idea what it is referring to or the work that has pre-empted its use by certain communities

and probably the worst thing you've done is say absolutely nothing which is pretty common for people like you who spend more time reducing phenomena to ideology

literally learn to fücking read brainlet
about 6 years

Rydia says


MeetTerry says


Rydia says

Look at the image- It's late state capitalism


People who use that term are bound to be idiots

stop talking


so a company that engages in the large-scale exploitation of workers heralding somebody as an activist fighting for people's rights isn't a contradiction? Have you even read any Bauman, Jameson, or any theory at all, brainlet?


Holy fück shut the fück up

You sound like a fücking idiot

I've skimmed through enough Marxist garbage

it's a contradiction and it's because people are fixated on fixing racial problems (despite how it's all BS). Anything pro-BLM garners media attention.

I know you subscribe to the shítshow that is /r/LateStageCapitalism and it gets torn apart in /r/BadEconomics literally every day

dumb neckbeard
about 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

It could be argued that because Nike is talking on social issues and not class issues, they're not being hypocrites with this ad.


class issues are social issues
about 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

It could be argued that because Nike is talking on social issues and not class issues, they're not being hypocrites with this ad.

Exploitation of labourers only becomes a social issue if people also reject the state, because until that happens the workers earning five cents a day aren't in the same category as an American.

The other side of it is that a living wage in Bangladesh is substantially lower than a living wage in America, so you could theoretically pay adults a pittance in a Bangladeshi factory and they'd still be making a better wage than an American waitress (comparatively).


Eh?

Even adjusting for PPP, the average wage in Bangladesh is ~$1,500 p/a and the conditions people live in reflect that.
Compared to other Bangladeshis you might be doing well on $3k a year but you're still living without the infrastructure that a more developed country would have, so I don't think you can give Nike a pass for being simply so gracious as to give them 'working opportunities'
about 6 years
It could be argued that because Nike is talking on social issues and not class issues, they're not being hypocrites with this ad.

Exploitation of labourers only becomes a social issue if people also reject the state, because until that happens the workers earning five cents a day aren't in the same category as an American.

The other side of it is that a living wage in Bangladesh is substantially lower than a living wage in America, so you could theoretically pay adults a pittance in a Bangladeshi factory and they'd still be making a better wage than an American waitress (comparatively).
about 6 years
Burning Nikes after buying them... :THONK:
about 6 years

MeetTerry says


Rydia says

Look at the image- It's late state capitalism


People who use that term are bound to be idiots

stop talking


so a company that engages in the large-scale exploitation of workers heralding somebody as an activist fighting for people's rights isn't a contradiction? Have you even read any Bauman, Jameson, or any theory at all, brainlet?
about 6 years
seems like if you did you wouldn't have posted on a thread where 2/3 people who have posted have mentioned something that you've claimed hasn't been mentioned

strange person
about 6 years

Rydia says

Look at the image- It's late state capitalism


People who use that term are bound to be idiots

stop talking
about 6 years

Magician says


Rydia says


Magician says

yall acting like nike doesn't outsource its labor with inhumane conditions and exploit the plight of lower class people


i mentioned it fam


i don't read your posts


why not
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Rydia says


Magician says

yall acting like nike doesn't outsource its labor with inhumane conditions and exploit the plight of lower class people


i mentioned it fam


i don't read your posts
about 6 years

Magician says

yall acting like nike doesn't outsource its labor with inhumane conditions and exploit the plight of lower class people


i mentioned it fam
about 6 years
Nike doesn't care about morality or sending a meaningful message, they just did it to drive up sales and it worked
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yall acting like nike doesn't outsource its labor with inhumane conditions and exploit the plight of lower class people
about 6 years
capitalism is dumb
about 6 years
Look at the image- It's late state capitalism at its finest. The dude who took a knee is being heralded as an activist by a multinational corporation with an inspiring quote - and this is from the same company that utilises slave labour- and liberals and #resistance commentators are calling this brave

i mean... seriously?
about 6 years
Because it's disrespectful and stupid as fück

people are allowed to do whatever they want, and they're allowed to do stupid and disrespectful things

the entire nike ad is fücking stupid as well

"believe in something even if it means sacrificing everything"

1. he's believing in something stupid

2. what the fück is he sacrificing?

nobody in the NFL liked working with him. he was one of the worst ranked QBs. he has done nothing to fight poverty.

he's like devante but stronger on the spectrum (srry lov u devante)
about 6 years
Fun how an advertising campaign can make us think decades of workers rights abuses against some of the poorest people in some of the most unequal countries in the world are completely irrelevant and that suddenly Nike's some shining paragon of morality.

Also fun how a bunch of rednecks burning the Nike shoes they already handed over their money for in the name of 'muh flag' is going to impact the company in any tangible way whatsoever.

But in America I guess it's just another day.