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Let's talk. [Bigotry]

over 6 years

What a thought was going to be a dicussion on the EM front page turned out to become something else. When I decided to throw fuel into the fire, it ended up spiraling a bit out of control. So here I am writting this to outline my opinion and make some ammends.

So let's begin with some misconceptions and a little backstory...

Me & Racism

So I understand if you think I'm this white skinny nerd who's never dealt with racism before based on my opinion (if you've seen it.). However that's furthest from the truth. I'm hispanic, and have dealt with racism throughout my entire life, from a variety of races. When I was in school I would have the white kids push me around and ask me when I was going to "bomb the school" alluding my skin color to that of a terrorist. Black kids would ask me where my suicide bomb vest is, and Asian kids would play terrorist-like music around me.

Just a side note for this portion as well, I'm adopted, and one thing that stands out in my mind is an adult who asked my mother (a white woman): "Why the hell would you adopt a kid like that?". I've been attacked racially from people of all sexes, ages, and races.

How I dealt with it

Now you may be wondering why my opinion is like it is if I've experience this first hand. It's because I realized that those who would make these comments thrived on my reactions to them. When I began ignoring others, or even laughing at their face when they made those kinds of comments, I found that they slowly began doing it less and less. I was no longer giving them power over me and my reactions, and when they realized I wouldn't give them their reactions, they quit, and overtime I found that I was beginning to no longer find any offense in those actions by others.

This is why my opinion on how to give these words less power is to stand up to it. Don't give those who use derogatory words power over you by giving them the reaction they want. Let them know that those words hold no strength over you by calling them pathetic, shaking your head, and walking away.

Derogatory Words: Is it ever okay?

However, this opinion of mine does mean I am defending those who use racist / sexist / homophobic words. Anyone who does use these kinds of words is a pathetic person, and a pathetic person does not deserve the reactions from people that they desire from using these words and terms.

I remember seeing an image a couple years back of a man who did something sexist at a feminist ralley, and was swarmed and attacked by those attending at the time. He held the smuggest look on his face as he was able to obtain the reaction he wanted.

Those who do such things care only about your reaction and nothing else. Do not give them what they want.

Apologies

I understand that heated discussion on the front page made a few people angry. I truly apologize to any who were offended or upset by my words and later actions in continuing to throwing fuel into the fire. It was not my intent to anger anyone originally, but I got out of hand with it and ended up making posts which were distasteful.

Last Words

If anyone truly does wish to discuss Racism / Sexism / Homophobia / Bigotry / etc in depth with me, I will gladly do so with you in a more dialect oriented way. I do not wish to mute others opinions on the matter of fact, and feel as though if I learn what others think in a non-heated discussion, it may help me to understand the struggles others have gone through and how they have coped.

Thank you. ~Songin

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zovea will come here in a few minutes to bully you about being an f type
over 6 years
oh, also: reacting to actions and reacting to words aren't mutually exclusive
over 6 years
like it's great to be able to ignore words people say against you when those things are baseless! but that doesn't mean you should tell other people to do the same in every situation. it's a lot more complicated than that.

Words can hold a lot of power.
over 6 years
also racism and bigotry aren't the same as calling someone stupid
over 6 years

LioneI says

words are words. get offended by actions instead.

i clearly don't care what people say about me because most of the time it's wrong.

just assume that everyone who is wrong about you is an idiot that isn't worth your time.


there's a lot to say to this but instead of typing out an essay ummm

unfortunately being right about something doesn't automatically make the issue go away or make other people understand
over 6 years
People asked me when I was going to shoot up the school and stuff. Don't take everything personally. It's not always because of race, sometimes it's due to personality, situation, or homelife.

I'm sorry to hear that, some people asked your mom why whould she adopt you. That is compeletely uncalled for and messed up.

MOST people aren't like that though.

Also racists are human too, you can just debate with them and see if they change their minds.

Some do, some won't.

We are all part of the human family. Most people agree that racism is bad. The rare few don't.
over 6 years
If everyone believed All Lives Matter.

Racism would magically end.
over 6 years
words are words. get offended by actions instead.

i clearly don't care what people say about me because most of the time it's wrong.

just assume that everyone who is wrong about you is an idiot that isn't worth your time.
over 6 years
genius idea but instead of complaining about people overreacting to your slurs how about just don't use slurs

i know it's a horrible and personal sacrifice. i mean slurs are a part of your identity and it really sucks to be shamed for your identity, right, guys?
over 6 years

denial says


Shoopie says

Have you ever jumped into a pool and the water was so cold it hurt your nipples?

the worst.


Is this a thing


try it and see
over 6 years
funny how defending garbage and insidious behavior goes hand in hand with some of these here posts teehee
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your bullies did a horrible job because you're still whining about ur skin color 10 years later
get a backbone or be a laughing stock the rest of your life
over 6 years
btw "me and racism" is the name of my autobiography
over 6 years

colorblind says

u realize how stupid you sound LMAO you just admitted to being trolled. nappy is a word used to describe african hair, and crackheads are crackheads. the person who told you either of those were racist was probably laughing behind their computer screen.


Nappy is a term that was used to insinuate that natural African hair was ugly, and that entire notion led to generations of black people feeling pressured into getting their hair straightened to look more European.

For a long time, black = bad and white = good.
over 6 years

Shoopie says

Have you ever jumped into a pool and the water was so cold it hurt your nipples?

the worst.


Is this a thing
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colorblind says

u realize how stupid you sound LMAO you just admitted to being trolled. nappy is a word used to describe african hair, and crackheads are crackheads. the person who told you either of those were racist was probably laughing behind their computer screen.


nappy definitely has negative connotations, unlike natural or textured/afro-textured which are always neutral or kinky which can be an insult or not depending on context.

crackhead isn't a racial slur doe
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there is no racism in germany, we are very lucky! if any1 is rasicst is those kanaken!
over 6 years
Whether they were trolling or not I don’t think apologizing for something that potentially could have been offensive to someone was a bad call on my part. What a dumb thing to say.
over 6 years
u realize how stupid you sound LMAO you just admitted to being trolled. nappy is a word used to describe african hair, and crackheads are crackheads. the person who told you either of those were racist was probably laughing behind their computer screen.
over 6 years

Zayn says

i called someone's hair nappy, not realizing it's a word that was used to badly talk about black slaves and black women in general. i apologized, i did my best to rectify it. my comment was still racist, i just had no intent of racism. still was a racist comment. i called a black person a crackhead, apparently it's racist for some reasons i still don't know. do i understand it? no. did a black user tell me it was racist to them regardless and i stopped saying it when reported/asked? yes.


it's as simple as that. if someone is telling you words are HURTING them and their community and you invalidate them telling them that their feelings are WRONG then you are the one who is WRONG.

there's a lot of words across marginalized groups that i genuinely don't get why it hurts them but it DOES and the last thing any minority group needs is someone OUTSIDE of that group who has NEVER faced that discrimination or persecution to try to silence their feelings.

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wew bump
over 6 years
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Oh, Canada. :l
over 6 years
Let's shut the hell up [posters in this thread]
over 6 years
Quebec sounds great!