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FWD:FWD:FWD:are italians white?

about 6 years

now, i know the general consensus is that the more north you go the whiter it is, but at what point are italians not white?

are italians white
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always salt you're pasta before boiling it.
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only north
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north middle and south
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north and middle
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spacechupi says

they're gay so they can't be white


gay black people is just a myth in adult content like how all cuckolds involve a dark skinned cuckolder and a white normal looking cuckoldee man to push a racist agenda
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real answer is southern europeans are white to northern europeans when it's convenient but they are always white to themselves
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they're gay so they can't be white
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White people talk with their mouths. Italians and mute people talk with their hands.

Ergo they are not white
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i'm an american and i can tell you with 100% certainty that the italians are the blackest people to walk this earth.
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i've been to italy once and it's just brown people trying to sell you hats
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Fishswim is Australian so his opinion on anything is invalid
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Is this funny
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tigermom says


fishswim says

italians were only considered non white by say the KKK and such because they were roman catholics. plus the modern day "hispanics" and spanish are very different since hispanic is used mainly now for strictly mexican people not spanish people dummy


I do know that the word Hispanic is not used for European Spanish people? Which is why I called them Spaniards haha


ok well, ur gay
about 6 years

fishswim says

italians were only considered non white by say the KKK and such because they were roman catholics. plus the modern day "hispanics" and spanish are very different since hispanic is used mainly now for strictly mexican people not spanish people dummy


I do know that the word Hispanic is not used for European Spanish people? Which is why I called them Spaniards haha
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tigermom says

Any attempt to classify Italians or Spaniards as non-white seems so Americanocentric to me, as here in Europe most people agree that they are white. As far as I know, the only reason Italian Americans do not want to identify as white is because they are often perceived as Hispanic and suffer racism for it. When you are treated negatively for your skin color then surely it makes sense to own it and say "well if you don't see me as white, I don't either. Italian and proud!", but this doesn't mean they can define the way the world sees actual Italians, as people who didn't grow up in their home country are, whether they deny it or not, disenfranchised from their homeland population and perceive the world, race etc. differently than people back home.

What I'm saying is, race/ethnicity relations are different in different countries and continents and it is both futile and ignorant to attempt to come up with a single approach to seeing race. Maybe when Italians do not receive racism in America (or all "true Europeans" in Europe gang up on Italians) the situation in the two continents will be more similar and we'll be able to come up with a more unanimous answer.


italians were only considered non white by say the KKK and such because they were roman catholics. plus the modern day "hispanics" and spanish are very different since hispanic is used mainly now for strictly mexican people not spanish people dummy
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P.S. I only talked about these two continents because I don't know about the struggles (or lack thereof) that Italians face in other continents, though I'm sure that they aren't focused on the European vs. non-European aspect but the foreigner vs. local one (and even if they are in some countries, like Japan, I really don't think the Japanese have a say in this).
about 6 years
Any attempt to classify Italians or Spaniards as non-white seems so Americanocentric to me, as here in Europe most people agree that they are white. As far as I know, the only reason Italian Americans do not want to identify as white is because they are often perceived as Hispanic and suffer racism for it. When you are treated negatively for your skin color then surely it makes sense to own it and say "well if you don't see me as white, I don't either. Italian and proud!", but this doesn't mean they can define the way the world sees actual Italians, as people who didn't grow up in their home country are, whether they deny it or not, disenfranchised from their homeland population and perceive the world, race etc. differently than people back home.

What I'm saying is, race/ethnicity relations are different in different countries and continents and it is both futile and ignorant to attempt to come up with a single approach to seeing race. Maybe when Italians do not receive racism in America (or all "true Europeans" in Europe gang up on Italians) the situation in the two continents will be more similar and we'll be able to come up with a more unanimous answer.
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Negra says


MajesticTerrapin says


Negra says

all europeans are white you stupid fu­ck


you've never seen burnt french toast before


thats not authentic french


Well I'm not Authentic French so... *shrugs*
about 6 years

Negra says

all europeans are white you stupid fu­ck


wrong, greeks, sicilians and the irish arent white
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MajesticTerrapin says


Negra says

all europeans are white you stupid fu­ck


you've never seen burnt french toast before


thats not authentic french
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damn i thought i had scratched up pots cos i used metal scourers on them :o
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Negra says

all europeans are white you stupid fu­ck


you've never seen burnt french toast before
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all europeans are white you stupid fu­ck
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fishswim has 2 irl friends and it’s only bc they think he’s the special kid and are being nice
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You boil the water and then salt it, you uncultured swine. Salting before the water boils is why y'all have scratched up pots.