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https://epicmafia.com/report/244300

over 6 years

Since this is a appeal and you can only appeal once, I'll make sure to go over every detail of the report and how it was handled by poser.

I'm guessing what poser meant from https://imgur.com/a/HYtkf is that I waited to give my report, therefor I'm not annoyed at the game at all. I should note I was annoyed in game, although I'll go over that later, but that shouldn't matter at all since blacksnakemoan did the most cut and dry OGI that I've seen in a while. I'm also going to go out on a guess and say poser did not review my report at all and I suggest she should pay more attention to it. Since this is a game related issue, the only thing that should effect the verdict of the moderators who view this is a few things. Did the person honestly admit to doing what he did on the report. And, if it's not clear if the person did what he was accused of, does he have a history of doing said thing.

Going on how it was actually 100% OGI without a doubt. https://imgur.com/a/hzpUt is where the OGI started. You could say that blacksnakemoan said the wrong thing on accident and I actually thought that when I saw this so I tried making him retract what he said in https://imgur.com/a/nyhLB He, instead of retracting what he said, replied with https://imgur.com/a/oteuq At this point, it was easy OGI, that effected the entire game, and at this point I was planning on reporting him. I wanted to point out his OGI to save any of the newer players who were in the game from possibly getting a GT violation mistakenly because they listened to blacksnake's claims. https://imgur.com/a/LqZMV At this point, blacksnakemoan denied all attempts to OGI and I honestly believed he didn't mean to OGI. Before I contiune, I should note, OGI isn't like gamethrowing. You can OGI by accident and still get a vio because you OGIed. So to make it very clear on how some people could think from blacksnakemoan's claim, I responded with this https://imgur.com/a/o4EQS At this point, I was very annoyed, hints the caps lock, because I had to deal with thinking about OGI and reporting while in a relaxing game of mafia playing my favoriate role. And then at that point, blacksnakemoan attacked me with statements that called me a https://imgur.com/a/dOxGb At this point I was past annoyed and very triggered which is why I said nothing for the past while. I probably would've lurked the entire time being annoyed from what blacksnakemoan has said but then he told sheriff to shoot me and I felt forced to play https://imgur.com/a/2I3l6 You could probably even tell how much I didn't enjoy that game from blacksnakemoan's OGI attempt and attack on me. I was maybe set of easily, although I was drosy at the time, but that doesn't justify ANYTHING blacksnakemoan has done. After I was done with that game, I was so disgusted with it, I decided to leave without reporting. This being the next game hosted by the table https://epicmafia.com/game/6485904/review Outside of being disgusted, I also didn't report because I thought either Tartosis, tanget or justin because they either pointed out that it was OGI or they're tart and I know tart knows it's OGI and hates it. The next day I get on and see https://epicmafia.com/report/244201 Which suggested he didn't get a violation for his OGI so I decided to report him.

As for if blacksnakemoan should get a note because he didn't mean to do it, or to get the violation. I think he should get hit with the real deal since it made me annoyed, blacksnakemoan annoyed, tartosis annoyed, tanget slightly annoyed, I'm guessing justin was annoyed, made it harder for town to scumhunt since it ended up effecting the entire game, and could've effected one of the 2 less expereinced players if they were alive blacksmith during night 2. There shouldn't be any exception for this case. I do believe he wasn't meaning to OGI but this effected way to many things to go unpunished, and would be a learning lesson to not lightly speak about reports in game for blacksnakemoan.

I believe everything I stated why this is OGI and why I didn't immediately report blacksnakemoan even though that fact doesn't matter in the report.

over 6 years
that was a great shot though
deletedover 6 years
blacksnakemoan OGI'd in this comp game where he claimed "got to go vote me im killer" to get lynched as hunter.


https://epicmafia.com/game/6481704/review
over 6 years
Blacksnake is a prick but this isn’t OGI at all lmao
over 6 years
U wrote in thread you would vio it dude
over 6 years
That wasn't my report dude
over 6 years
Bsm do u now see why

https://epicmafia.com/topic/88990

Is not a vio? Because humans say simple that is obviously not serious sometimes & if u interpret rules like a republican will come out a loser 90% of the time
over 6 years
U realize u could have just linked the report & game right ? Lol
over 6 years
78u. Get it into your head. This is not ogi.

However if you somehow happen to do the exact same thing in the exact same scenario then you will get an ogi vio. Get that into your head. And lock the thread. If you think the mods are gonna give a vio to a mod then you are dumb. Mods have caught people cheat in mod chat and not leaked it because team integrity.
over 6 years
I'll just add on to this because I feel like I need a entire line to express why this OGI is bad. If the BS was a newer player, wanted to vest the cop, but didn't because he thought it was gamethrow due to blacksnakemoan's OGI. That would've effected a lot. There was a very real chance that they could've been a new player AND believed blacksnakemoan's OGI. I wanted to clear it up clearly by saying in caps that blacksnakemoan was OGIing. But he seemed to rather attack me by calling me a cu nt instead of clearing it up. Which I had to clear it up or hope that a new player was a blacksmith who would fall for this.
over 6 years
Since I hate my sleep, I'm going to respond to black. Although I'm doing it from my iPad so I can't quote. @2 lines above, first 2 paragraphs, I am not denying that I was the main reason that we kept talking about OGI. But if I didn't, I would risk BS vesting incorrectly if they were to be a newer player. I was simply playing towards my win condition, which was removing the OGI you set. I should probably note that this has NOTHING to do with if it was OGI or not. It was to talk about how your OGI, caused a chain reaction that messed up the game. Even if it didn't mess up the game, it was still OGI, which you did NOTHING to clear up.

@2 lines above, paragraph 3, Outside the fact that this, literally doesn't matter, it is a outright lie. The closest thing you did to steer the convo is telling sheriff to shoot me. Probably only out of frustration and without intention.

@1 line above, I felt it was clear but when I said talking about the report system, I meant talking about reporting someone or something like that. I believe I already used words similarly to these to answer someone else's question with my first post. But I'm not checking on my iPad.
over 6 years
lmao are you gonna report everyone who says GT GT GT in a game now
over 6 years

Sevenateyou says

For "That line wasn't major" it effected the entire game.


I mean, only bc of your actions.

Tangent is pretty much a joke account. Tartosis is a known troll.

I tried to steer it off that topic asap bc I realised how you were reacting, and you clung to it.
over 6 years
tl&dr
over 6 years
It's just not ogi I've been on the site for almost 5 yes
over 6 years
I actually got on this from my iPad because I feel like this could end before I get back on EM so I'm in my bed atm. I don't see any valid counter agruements. "It wasn't intentional" only effects game throw, for OGI, it should only lessen the punishment. For "That line wasn't major" it effected the entire game. If anyone can think of counter arguments, please tell me before this ends and let me respond. I'm not doing this to get black a OGI report, but because I take OGI more seriously then any other rules. And this is, from what I view, pretty bad OGI.
over 6 years
I slept and I still stand by my choice
over 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

ya you totally weren't trawling for more stuff to be a nuisance with in that game were you?

[1:23] justin can i say a swear word to ask a question
[1:40] if someone has the title "queen b!tch" is it reportable?
some weird ogi joke @ [5:00]

[5:34] bsm answer me bby
[5:40] quotes "if someone has the title "queen b!tch" is it reportable?"
[6:10] am i allowed to swear daddy?
[6:19] i don't fully understand the new HC rules

god you're a pain


I don't think how any of those things would effect anything since you were the one who OGIed and I just pointed it out. Also I'm going to sleep now, 4 real.
over 6 years
glad i stepped down
over 6 years
why did I know this game was going start so much drama screaminggggggg
over 6 years
ya you totally weren't trawling for more stuff to be a nuisance with in that game were you?

[1:23] justin can i say a swear word to ask a question
[1:40] if someone has the title "queen b!tch" is it reportable?
some weird ogi joke @ [5:00]

[5:34] bsm answer me bby
[5:40] quotes "if someone has the title "queen b!tch" is it reportable?"
[6:10] am i allowed to swear daddy?
[6:19] i don't fully understand the new HC rules

god you're a pain
over 6 years
I'm going to sleep and will be back on this topic 11:00 PM epic mafia time, if there are any arguments left open, please let me respond to them before the report is closed. Thank you.
over 6 years

mandevian says

If you are saying i didnt pay attention then you are not paying attention. It doesnt matter what his intention is there. What he said is legally ok as he is passing it off as what he thinks is the rule.


What you said contradicts https://imgur.com/a/emg0r https://epicmafia.com/report/244300
over 6 years
oh god poser is actually a moderator im howling
over 6 years
If you are saying i didnt pay attention then you are not paying attention. It doesnt matter what his intention is there. What he said is legally ok as he is passing it off as what he thinks is the rule.
over 6 years

blacksnakemoan says


denial says

its just a word that is better left not being said


Absolutely agree it was a bad word choice


Can people stop saying that it was a bad choice of words? The problem isn't the fact that blacksnakemoan wasn't intentionally trying to do any of these things. The problem is he did these, and even with lots of people explaining what he said was OGI, he didn't correct himself. It disrupted gameplay and could've gotten a new player a GT violation for vesting sheriff instead of cop in that situation since vesting cop was better mechanically.