Epicmafia

Round 480 Explained

almost 7 years

I'm making this thread so the community know the full details about the cheating ring that was discovered last round.

Meg,Mouth,Mensroom, Journey were part of a discord where they would play games and be in call at the same time, first it started off with red heart games and then carried onto gold hearts during the round 480. According to source X journey wasn't part of the comp games voice chat.

First of all, we asked to join their server because when they were confronted about it, all of them gave different answers and they couldn't keep a story straight. Mouth denying that the server existed . Journey said we can't join because it's Carmen's server even though it was mentioned that it wasn't Carmens server so this clearly wasn't the reason and when confronted the new reason was because it had personal conversations on there. Meg claim's that it was unfair for mods to "raid" the server even though cheating took place on it and the mods requested to see it so a proper investigation could take place. Also the personal conversations that you're referring to are just you about people.

So before we join the server, meg deletes some of Mouths/TheMensRooms comments which we saw in the audit log (Keep in mind the audit log doesn't show if you delete your own messages). Also the name of the chat was changed from cheetos ring to chokers ring. Alongside this when going through some of the discord messages you could tell that messages were deleted as some were out of context or timestamps were odd and what was said so clearly they were trying to cover their tracks which they had more than enough time to do so since they were stalling with sending us the link.

On the discord there was a suspicious line of when one of them were asking who was mafia and another person saying they are blue. There was also a line where Mouth/Mensroom asked journey to join them on vc during a comp game as 3/4 of them who were in the game were on voice call (to which she said no and didn't join them)(Most likely Mouth,Mensroom,Meg). Also After TheMensRoom was asked to stop playing with some of his friends due to having 15+ games with them, he then says in the chat that he can go on an alt that the mods don't know about to still play with them to which journey told him not to do so which is the only reason he didn't.MensRoom said that they didn't cheat all they did was be on call during comp games talking about non game related things...

Meg claiming that playing with her friends did more harm than good for her when she had a 80% win ratio with MensRoom, I can't even see the stats with Mouth because he decided to delete all his accounts. Why is a innocent person running before the verdict was even given?? Also can you please explain how a 80% win ratio with 1 user is more harm than good? I'll be waiting.

Meg still trying to deny any of it happened when 2 people have literally confessed to all of it and bought her name into it before she was even suspected or mentioned of being part of it.

Maldito

almost 7 years

lacey says

"saying someone is re/tarded or that they need to kill themselves is fine if you're feeling frustrated in a game" &

she literally did say this lol

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harodihg says

I don't think she's ever said either of those things, why are you acting this way?

she hasn't?

Bebop

almost 7 years

lacey says

meg - Today at 12:45 AM
i deleted 2 messages
they both were "LETS THROW"
if a whole round of cheating can be done within 2 messages we must be pretty pro
hes making up and its frusterating
also mouth deleted all the messages for some reason, when he self deleted

lol what is voip

Nobody

almost 7 years

One thing I missed out in the post is when I confronted Mouth about the discord server and he kept denying it, I said to him that I have proof and someone sent me screenshots of everything and the first thing he does is go to the discord and type

"did anyone share images with nobody"

denial

almost 7 years

*wink* i understand you

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I don't think she's ever said either of those things, why are you acting this way?

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i don't have an opinion

denial

almost 7 years

lacey says

meg - Today at 12:45 AM
i deleted 2 messages
they both were "LETS THROW"
if a whole round of cheating can be done within 2 messages we must be pretty pro
hes making up and its frusterating
also mouth deleted all the messages for some reason, when he self deleted

do u personally think meg did not cheat

you can wink once if you don't want to publicly say and ill understand you

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same embarrassing thing but i guess that's par for the course from ms. "saying someone is re/tarded or that they need to kill themselves is fine if you're feeling frustrated in a game" & "16 is old enough to know better than to get ra/ped"

Nobody

almost 7 years

lacey says

it's hard to take any of this seriously when charley sounded like someone's exasperated stepmom who no one takes seriously like "i'm gonna count to 3 and if u don't show me the logs, ur grounded from mafia!!!"

Actually it was a if you don't allow us to access the discord server then you're getting an auto dq considering they denied its existence and then tried to make several other reasons as to why we couldn't look at the logs. and then when we finally allowed it wasn't the full logs we were shown.

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JM123 says

there's no need for bins when there are several points and sources that have proved us they played games with rolesharing.

but nick in case you're curious, here's one game that we're sure they played while on voicecall, it's the final game of lana, the one where she hammered gold. she played it with postitnotes (postitnotes aka themensroom aka periodictable aka who the is this guy that appears from nowhere to throw for people?)

https://epicmafia.com/game/6371168

putting speech filter in lana and postitnotes

postitnotes maf lana blue

d1 lana acts super confident and quickly says to lynch positnotes, postitnotes just scumtells by saying both temps should out (lol?) and does nothing else, doesnt out reads, nothing, he wants to get lynched and thats what happens. d2 lana gets hammer and hammers the other maf, didn't explain any reads tho

i was in this game and her saying to hammer postit seemed like a pretty clear joke to me and i said sonse was maf day 1 before i hammered on postit

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i'm mouth's alt, ama

JM123

almost 7 years

there's no need for bins when there are several points and sources that have proved us they played games with rolesharing.

but nick in case you're curious, here's one game that we're sure they played while on voicecall, it's the final game of lana, the one where she hammered gold. she played it with postitnotes (postitnotes aka themensroom aka periodictable aka who the fck is this guy that appears from nowhere to throw for people?)

https://epicmafia.com/game/6371168

putting speech filter in lana and postitnotes

postitnotes maf lana blue

d1 lana acts super confident and quickly says to lynch positnotes, postitnotes just scumtells by saying both temps should out (LOL?) and does nothing else, doesnt out reads, nothing, he wants to get lynched and thats what happens. d2 lana gets hammer and hammers the other maf, didn't explain any reads tho

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I honestly think the best part about this is that mouth can just come back on an alt. Who knows, maybe he's already here.

Nobody

almost 7 years

lacey says

meg - Today at 12:45 AM
i deleted 2 messages
they both were "LETS THROW"
if a whole round of cheating can be done within 2 messages we must be pretty pro
hes making up and its frusterating
also mouth deleted all the messages for some reason, when he self deleted

That's what she's saying, why not just keep them there and explain it. and it was 2 messages from mouth and I'm pretty sure messages of what TheMensRoom said was also deleted.

And not to mention the messages that they deleted of their own because you could tell there was missing text in conversations

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it's hard to take any of this seriously when charley sounded like someone's exasperated stepmom who no one takes seriously like "i'm gonna count to 3 and if u don't show me the logs, ur grounded from mafia!!!"

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meg - Today at 12:45 AM
i deleted 2 messages
they both were "LETS THROW"
if a whole round of cheating can be done within 2 messages we must be pretty pro
hes making up and its frusterating
also mouth deleted all the messages for some reason, when he self deleted

Hibiki

almost 7 years

lacey says

unban essa

yes

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unban essa

Nobody

almost 7 years

nick3 says

So you're basically offering us a piece of cake but then refuse to share it ultimately? Pathetic and infantile.

Neither me nor the others find this kind of stuff useful if we don't have proof.

I don't really care about you as an individual if i'm honest considering I've only voice chatted with you once and you cried about how epicmafia had bad coding for 20 minutes and that your site was going to be the best mafia site ever.

This thread does its purpose perfectly fine

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nick3 says

And what's with that salt? Nobody is stopping you from banning me lol

I agree, ban nick while we're at it.

Final words on this entire situation: I hold no feelings towards the mods for their decisions to ban these users, I honestly just want answers like everyone else. Imho if they did admit to talking in vc while in comp games, regardless of if it's game relative is cheating in itself. You can give reads through reactions by doing so and there'll be almost no trace of it.

nick3

almost 7 years

So you're basically offering us a piece of cake but then refuse to share it ultimately? Pathetic and infantile.

Neither me nor the others find this kind of stuff useful if we don't have proof.

Nobody

almost 7 years

LazyYami says

Nobody says

nick3 says

Cute, how about you post actual evidence that proves a 100% that all those people were cheating?

I mean you could always ask for a link to the discord to see the chat logs for yourself, oh wait they deleted all of them.

Also hows your mafia site coming along? I can't wait till it's done and you leave this one for good!!

Aren't the rolemods suppose to create bins w/ evidence? Like that's pretty much their only job. Did you guys not get any of the rolemods involved on this?! You didn't bother to take screenshots or anything, this is pretty much a he said she said situation where one side has authority.

Just unban essa and maybe people will not care anymore.

Mods don't need to create a bin when one of the members involved admits to it + another who provides proof.

Nobody

almost 7 years

nick3 says

Nobody says

nick3 says

Cute, how about you post actual evidence that proves a 100% that all those people were cheating?

I mean you could always ask for a link to the discord to see the chat logs for yourself, oh wait they deleted all of them.

Also hows your mafia site coming along? I can't wait till it's done and you leave this one for good!!

Did you see them exchanging reads? Did you catch them on voice chat?

And what's with that salt? Nobody is stopping you from banning me lol

Oh don't you worry there is proof of them cheating which I can't share otherwise it reveals who sent it but don't you worry :)

Nah not really salt, I thought you liked this sort of exchange since I see you always firing shots are people on the lobbywall.

nick3

almost 7 years

Nobody says

nick3 says

Cute, how about you post actual evidence that proves a 100% that all those people were cheating?

I mean you could always ask for a link to the discord to see the chat logs for yourself, oh wait they deleted all of them.

Also hows your mafia site coming along? I can't wait till it's done and you leave this one for good!!

Did you see them exchanging reads? Did you catch them on voice chat?

And what's with that salt? Nobody is stopping you from banning me lol