Ya I agree with everything you said, but gov is much more egregious than any gun role for reasons mentioned before.

I would argue that guns and the governor role both have a big impact. It comes down to the fact that both "powers" place control of the game into the hands of one single person.

Mafia is a lot of skill and a lot of luck, so I would also argue that you are unlucky if you do not win sometimes. That does not necessarily mean you are bad.

By playing setups you argue "bad," you are also at fault for taking the chance in putting your fate in someone else's hands.

Guns have less of an impact than an OT does. They're 90% of the time the mislynch and only get rid of 1 townie as opposed to 2 (lynch and NK.) They swing the game much less.

Do you think setups with guns are "complete trash" as well?

But, liek, seriously, governor in competitive is complete trash. That's the real problem with that setup. If it was a hunter that game would be both less townsided and less trollable.

sorry if it seemed that way

OK. Your post about kingmaking seems unrelated outside of that context. MB!

Astounded says

I wouldn't say that was a kingmaker situation. Yak was just pity yaking someone who lead the charge on him after the OT.

i never said that that particular instance was a kingmaker situation

But I mean your replay is proof that DLYG is much competitively inferior to the original DLYV.

I wouldn't say that was a kingmaker situation. Yak was just pity yaking someone who lead the charge on him after the OT.

also how come a yakuza setup is even allowed in competitive when you can play kingmaker with it

https://epicmafia.com/game/6348113/review it's stuff like this that cost me gold. Lynch within BP ccs, both people in the lynch are mafia/yakuza, gov ots to shrink and town loses on the spot.

https://epicmafia.com/report/237487 if any mods are around please handle this as soon as possible, it's been almost 3 days and it's a potential refund for Putler and myself

how the fu did it not end

yeah soz bro, you hit a really rough patch there, gl with the tiebreaks

well hopefully i still at least win something but it wont feel good since i had the chance to win gold and close it.... so easily... this is so embarrassing. now everyone has to wait another day if Putler doesnt end the round

https://epicmafia.com/game/6345696/review

when the day 1 shot confirms all 3 scum

Meanwhile, in comp

https://i.imgur.com/WZ64Mew.png

well i needed 3/7 to close the round and lost 5 straight. the worst part is i couldnt really do anything about any of the losses

Bogmire says

(really) bad luck. sorry guys

Honestly, I think you had really good luck.

If you play most of your games with BorynStone and are still in the running to win a trophy, you might just be one of the luckiest people participating in the competition.

The fact that your record is not a losing record astounds me.

(really) bad luck. sorry guys

Does there have to be a bin every round? Don't you people get bored?

So who's going to be making the inevitable bin against Bogmire if/when he clinches gold?

Apropos says

Thank you, I try pretty hard and spend a good amount of time trying to moderate the site fairly and properly as well as raise the quality of competitive games.

f*ggot