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Round 655 Discussion Thread

about 7 years

Congratulations to the winners of Round 645!


ErzaScarlet

Setups


Bookkeeper

Setups


trikmastatak

Setups


Good luck to the participants of Round 655!

What setups would you like to see featured next:
13
Something that was not already mentioned
6
Janitorial 2.0
3
this setup is bad and should n
2
Sweet Dreams
2
Voltron Doesn't Like It
1
Basic Variant
1
Overturn 2 Riddler
1
Who Watches the Watcher?
0
Jingle all the Way
0
Basic Logic
about 7 years

joga says


Gary1988 says

Also, F0ggy multiaccounts with JeSiKah and Reporterino.


then who the f*ck are you


I'm Gary.
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DreamGate says


joga says


Gary1988 says

Also, F0ggy multiaccounts with JeSiKah and Reporterino.


then who the f*ck are you


who are you? I know that ur not really Billy.

also maite03 is kvasebas and HamboneFakeNamington


stfu orienteering
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joga says


Gary1988 says

Also, F0ggy multiaccounts with JeSiKah and Reporterino.


then who the f*ck are you


who are you? I know that ur not really Billy.

also maite03 is kvasebas and HamboneFakeNamington
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Gary1988 says

Also, F0ggy multiaccounts with JeSiKah and Reporterino.


then who the f*ck are you
about 7 years
Also, F0ggy multiaccounts with JeSiKah and Reporterino.
about 7 years
Cl0udyyy, F0ggyDay and Ra1nyDay are all different people.

Cl0udy is just a kid who makes mistakes sometimes, F0ggy is banned user maite03 and Ra1ny is mtlve.
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ErzaScarIet says

Wise words from Cloudy

Cl0udyyy@parkover
im as dumb as a post when im playing, but in gy im albert einstein


you do realize that Cl0udyyy and F0ggyDay are now gting mtlve alts, right?
about 7 years
Wise words from Cloudy

Cl0udyyy@parkover
im as dumb as a post when im playing, but in gy im albert einstein
about 7 years
Nah, I lost because I was the most arguing with it.
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mandevian says

I come back after a long time and see the same people cheating with the same people and the mods have set such bad precedence that no one is afraid of breaking any rule anymore.


yeah, that is true, but nobody cares anymore because people are tired of seeing so many sore losers report spam people
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https://epicmafia.com/game/6283161/review

when people don't know mechanics = best strat
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mandevian says

I come back after a long time and see the same people cheating with the same people and the mods have set such bad precedence that no one is afraid of breaking any rule anymore.


Take the shot.
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https://epicmafia.com/game/6282393 this game is freaking hilarious. After n2, I think I am in GY and I start cursing the alive players for not sheeping me. And when two of them vote, I point out how meowie is clear and still praise isn't unvoting. Suddenly one of them responds to me and I am like "how the fuk is he able to read me". Then I realize I am alive.
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I come back after a long time and see the same people cheating with the same people and the mods have set such bad precedence that no one is afraid of breaking any rule anymore.
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when was the last time jan 2 was comped?
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http://epicmafia.com/game/6281729 time for a challenging game of AHD
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how can I enjoy comp when people are so mean ? :(
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F0ggyDay says

well, i didn't do it on porpoise! now you're just being needlessly rude to me!


there's nothing rude about it

i'm saying if you actually enjoy playing comp, then be engaged not only for yourself, but the other 6-9 players you're playing with

if you don't actually enjoy playing comp, then we shouldn't even have this discussion
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(cont.)

in the last round i noticed lots of throwing and fighting for who would get the gun from gunsmith in that GS + bomb / bleeder setup. quite frankly, no one had fun playing that because they either didnt get an item, weren't PR, or were mafia who most likely wouldnt get an item. GS was overwhelmed almost every game

while the setup was created around the trikster role and my namesake, it's also an answer to those people from last round who joined comp games then end up being de-engaged because they rolled blue or mafia. "f*ck i rolled blue / mafia. just gonna ISP and not give a damn"
about 7 years

spiritualized says

https://epicmafia.com/post/2998513/goto_page


tl;dr - specifically considering the point of misuse of items: it is on the player to be engaged. players joining a comp game go afk just to get blown up by a bomb when they get back / player gets the bomb and panic passes is not the play

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the specific situation you quoted of bomb relates to my critique of foggy not being engaged in competitive games

i've seen those situations too where players go afk, refuse to pass the bomb optimally etc. and i believe it is due to a lack of engagement from the players, which is out of control for anyone who joins a competitive game

expanding on my point #2 with variance, there is no correct way to play when a bomb is in play. the playertable has to be "skilled" enough to adapt to any possible situation:

1. town is n1, all prs alive
2. town is n1, all prs alive, oracle has vest and on alive
3. santa is n1, bulletproof has vest / oracle is on alive
4. bulletproof is n1, santa is alive for re-vest / oracle is on alive

so on and so on

the reason i put up general strats up is so town is able to think for themselves and adapt. is winning in an *expected* scenario over and over considered "skilled" ? or is winning in an *unexpected* scenario over and over considered "skilled" ?

you already know i prefer the latter. if i wanted to play a scripted game where i know exactly what will happen, i would play against AI, not humans
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well, i didn't do it on porpoise! now you're just being needlessly rude to me!
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F0ggyDay says

so just because i made a mistake, i can't have an opinion? :/


no lol you can have an opinion. but i'm saying your worded opinion is clearly different from your approach to the game. if you are really frowning upon GTing and mistakes, you should make an effort to eliminate that from your play

hipfiring a fabbed gun as santa 2 days after trikster was nightkilled shows a severe lack of engagement ;/
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trikmastatak says

yes, thats what im asking for, actual reasons as to why you think it's not fit; and it's helpful that you are the top player on it

subtracting the exploit from the discussion; i can say that

1. it's neither mafia nor town sided
2. there's enough variance that there is no surefire way to win each game as either alignment
3. there's the correct balance of town to mafia to wild card


i’m still tied up with something but i’ll try and tackle this in the interim. overlooking the glitches and the fact that this isn’t an honorable community and people WILL exploit whatever helps them win, i think there are too many variables that make it way more luck based rather than something requiring actual skill and strategy; i’m happy to be disproven on that if you have strategies that you feel weren’t implemented properly but i’ve seen instances where random variables like bomb from trickster have ultimately made the game a toss up based on who is lucky/unlucky enough to be holding the bomb when it goes off.

it’s an idealistic perspective in this day and age on em but winning competitive setups should be primarily dependent on skill and those types of unexpected variables shouldn’t be able to come in and completely ruin a game. despite this, you’re right that it is balanced and i admire that you attempted to bring some fresh/new roles into comp. just not the best application of them, imo. it’s not a lost cause and could easily be reworked.
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so just because i made a mistake, i can't have an opinion? :/