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over 6 years

Hi so I've been working on a series of novels since I was 15 but I haven't finished a single book despite having 5 mystery plots which I am considering to publish in the near future (I have a hard time writing because I'm a Fliipino and English is my second language)

My dream is to become a mystery novelist someday and as a starter I'd like to check if I'm on the right track by presenting to you a case in one of the murder mysteries I've plotted. I will give the relevant information about the case and you guys try to guess the murderer and how the murder was done.

I don't have any tokens to give to the one who can guess but I can at least acknowledge you as a great detective! :)

Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PI0dHg7YSC9piZ-ZY8LDEs_WDjhm7egThUOrAVK4iFk/edit?usp=sharing

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okay
over 6 years

DreamGate says

wait, who is Billy's Uncle Nate?????

I just solved the mystery


It was a typo. It was supposed to be Mart, I changed the name
over 6 years
Congrats Detective LHarney for solving the whole case!
deletedover 6 years
wait, who is Billy's Uncle Nate?????

I just solved the mystery
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lmao why do people think Brack or Mart are the King of Diamonds. it is Elias Obv.
over 6 years

godofdarkness says

Hello Detectives,

This is so amazing. I'm fascinated with your responses and they've given me ideas on possible plot holes and rooms for improvement.

As of the moment no one has come up with the completely truth to the case, but worry not for I will give the facts and clues to bring you all into the light.

Facts:
1. The murderer is not one of the main characters (Brack and Rohan) for they are still the main characters in Book 1 which is set three years after Book 2.
2. For the "how is it done" part, I want to clarify that no one left the living room from 10:15 pm up to the discovery of the body. There was a windowless bathroom in the living room that all of them used during the night. The two police detectives (Rohan and Mart) were awake the whole time and they left together when morning came to check on the two. Also, Brack was monitoring the other suspects when the two left so no one had the chance to leave.
3. The bathroom's heater was set on room temperature so you can cross off the idea that the murderer used cold temperature to alter the stiffness of the body.
4. You guys are right, the cards represents each of the Javen siblings. (and yes, Sheory represents the queen of hearts) Also, there is a logical reason why Colin assigned the cards to each of them.


Also I forgot to give this as a clue: why were there only red cards in the scene?
over 6 years
Congratulations, Detective LHarney for solving the “how was it done” part of the case! Don’t worry, other detective wannabes, you can continue guessing. As for the who did it part of the case, no one has solved the message of the victim as of the moment ;)
over 6 years

xxerox says

Actually i may have an idea. Maybe the victum was put on top of the strings with a glued rope around the neck, and with time some of the strings would break and the person would have hanged.

But honestly idk what else the strings can help with.


Use your creativity ;)
over 6 years
Actually i may have an idea. Maybe the victum was put on top of the strings with a glued rope around the neck, and with time some of the strings would break and the person would have hanged.

But honestly idk what else the strings can help with.
over 6 years
Sorry, nothing new comes up to mind. I may try some other time.
over 6 years
Oh, I forgot to include this detail and this may help you guys:

Both Sheory and Cath were found dangling on a sea of strings like how Colin did. Colin became paranoid after seeing how his sister died and called it the curse of “Pride Javen”. It left everyone confused because Pride was found shot, not hanged.
over 6 years

mindful says

how old are you?


I’m 22
over 6 years
how old are you?
over 6 years
Clues: (To solve this case, you must ask yourself the following question)

1. Why was the surveillance camera in front of Colin's room corrupted when the murderer could've just called the victim out and not go through all the trouble of corrupting it?
2. Why was the body found trapped on a sea of strings?
3. Why was the rope glued?
4. Why was the 6 of hearts missing?
5. Why were the other cards wet on the floor?
6. Why were the 3, 8 of Diamond and the Queen of Hearts found crumpled in the victim's pocket together with a neatly placed King of Diamonds?
7. Why were the other cards wet on the floor?
8. What did Rohan figure out based on the names of Javen siblings?

Most importantly: Why did Colin go through the trouble of using cards for his message instead of writing it?
over 6 years
Hello Detectives,

This is so amazing. I'm fascinated with your responses and they've given me ideas on possible plot holes and rooms for improvement.

As of the moment no one has come up with the completely truth to the case, but worry not for I will give the facts and clues to bring you all into the light.

Facts:
1. The murderer is not one of the main characters (Brack and Rohan) for they are still the main characters in Book 1 which is set three years after Book 2.
2. For the "how is it done" part, I want to clarify that no one left the living room from 10:15 pm up to the discovery of the body. There was a windowless bathroom in the living room that all of them used during the night. The two police detectives (Rohan and Mart) were awake the whole time and they left together when morning came to check on the two. Also, Brack was monitoring the other suspects when the two left so no one had the chance to leave.
3. The bathroom's heater was set on room temperature so you can cross off the idea that the murderer used cold temperature to alter the stiffness of the body.
4. You guys are right, the cards represents each of the Javen siblings. (and yes, Sheory represents the queen of hearts) Also, there is a logical reason why Colin assigned the cards to each of them.
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billy
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xxerox! (:
over 6 years
Also you should really stop this weird fascination of the number 2.

Second book, 22, 2 years ago, two people dying on the seconds floor

It really makes an impresion that the number is over-used.

I woldn't be suprised if you have 2 people helping each other to comit the numbers at the end and Marth is not the only one but he is also helped by 6 of hearts(Alfred Strauss?)

P.S. Actually that would make sence if he took the 6 of hearts to me it more obvious that Jack of Diamonds is the killer, but again - He had no reason to take the card and prove himself more obvious.
over 6 years
The cards : I agree with Patryk about the ages. Queen and King , 3 and 8 stand for the 4 dead fammily members, and Diamonds stands for the Jahred Fammily.

The missing 6 can't stand for Pride, and the murderer had no reason to take it. Why take it and bring even more atenntion to it when he could just put it with the rest of the cards down. Actually, why even leave the cards?

I can't figure it out saddly.

As for the Jack of Diamonds, first of all we already know that Diamonds is the Jahrad fammily based on the 4 murder cards (3,8,Q and K). Althrough i have no idea why he decided to put Diamonds instead of hearts. It would have made much more sence for him to put Queen of Hears and then 3,8 and king of hearts instead of diamonds.


I have no idea how Mart is Jack.

In any case, i really want you to PM the answer to your card mystery.
over 6 years
Hello.

There maybe are some things that are baddly written in the death message. I may rethink that after you show us the correct way to solve it.


I couldn't solve it myself tho.

Mart Javen is the murderer . . . probbably.

The truth is that none of the victums were actually hanged. They were all possibly drowned or strangled, then through various means made to look like hanged.

The first victum was hanged through the balcony which can be done by anyone who is in a wheel chair.

The second victum... Actually i dont understand "Common Bathroom's second floor". Did you mean Roman/Turkish bath, because Bathrooms usually are just rooms and have no second floors.

The third victum was killed outside probbably in the pool, by the wetness of the cards, or he was soaked by the showers, to lower his body temperature, making it look like he was killed later that the actual time.

I could not deduce the reason for the strings, but most likely they were used to pull the body up somehow. Maybe using the wheels of the wheelchair to pull the strings and thus pulling the body up? Rope was most likely glued up so the body to not fall when being pulled up.

Marth most likely is not in a wheel chair because of any avalanche but because what happened with Pride 2 years ago.
over 6 years
The message from Colin was that the 6th child (6♥) from Javen family (J♦) was the culprit. Colin believed that people who had already become victims were Sheory (Q♥), Cath (3♦) and Mart (8♦). Colin dubbed Sheory as "Queen of Hearts", Cath and Math's numbers are shown as the last digit of their age. Also there was culprit's card (K♦) which indicated the last letter of culprit's name as well as the only character who has the letter in his name. The culprit was considered as the 6th child instead of Pride Javen who had the same age. The culprit is Brack Javen.
over 6 years
After the midnight, the culprit left the living room and prepared the murder scene, hanging a rope and washing it from fingerprints. Then the culprit visited Colin in his room. Colin trusted them as a family member. The culprit told Colin that Mart had been murdered during the investigation and told him to follow them, after closing his room, to the bathroom where the murder had occurred. In reality, the murder was going to occur there. They attacked Colin and hanged him in the shower area.

Colin was a magician. Although he couldn't save himself from strangulation, he could send his last message through the cards, which he had kept in his right sleeve (he was wearing a shirt). He raised his right hand to his left shirt pocket and hid Jack of Diamonds and 6 of Hearts.

The culprit noticed that Colin was going to reveal his identity through 6 of Hearts, so they took it. Moreover, they had strings in the bathroom (most likely a thing used as dental floss), so he used it to tie his arms along his hips. The culprit left the crime scene, tinkered with a camera that monitored the entrance with Colin's room door, disposed of all suspicious items and went back to the living room.

Meanwhile, Colin pulled out 3 of Diamonds, 8 of Diamonds and Queen of Hearts and crumpling them he slid them along with King of Diamonds into his right pants pocket. He held the rest of his cards until he died, dropping them to the ground, which had already been wet.
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it was brack bc i imagine u writing it in his perspective then plot twist, it was him, the character we were fond of. the reason is bc the other children were more successful than him and he wanted to murder then in a mystery novel-esque manner (the shattered cards etc). hed have easy access to the materials used to kill w/o buyin em cause his father is the Owner of the largest toy manufacturing company in the world

case solved
over 6 years

godofdarkness says


Arcbell says

Mart Javen did it


Why do you think it's him and how did he do it?


I didn't read the murder details, but heirs 1,2,3 died and he's 4 so he did it.

I'm the best detective
over 6 years

Arcbell says

Mart Javen did it


Why do you think it's him and how did he do it?


xela says

I can tell you how he died but first you gotta give me his social history.


Uhh, what do you mean by social history?