Imagine Sonseray as he presses enter of attacking the intelligence of someone. "hah this will show my intellectual superiority" After this light chuckle he goes back to writing on his loose leaf piece of paper of pseudo deep writings reflecting on his loss of love.
Where have I said anything racist or that i'm conservative. I mean at least i'm not complaining on Em everyday that my gf cheated on me.
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This is a dumb argument without a conclusion but if it helps any Gentleman is a dumb brainwashed conservative who is very thankful for the opportunity to be poor and racist in North America.
Your whole argument is off the assumption if i had the same parents. If they were born in Africa they wouldn't be the same parents that I have. They would not have the same lineage that they have which would be a major component of who I am.
"u belive biology is a factor in the person" yet u think if the person changes places its not even the same person, thats nice if ur parents were missionaries that would be different than the thought experiment i am propposing it would hit the same problem as the immigrant culture, im talking about if u change the superstructure around u, u will be more different than if i simply change ur parents
if ur kids r only taught working class values by their working class parents, that kid will most likely not grow up to be banker
This is really really stupid. There is plenty of examples of people who have worked in factories who have children that went on to become highly educated to be doctors, bankers etc.
How do you explain the poor chinese immigrants that come here that struggle in low paying jobs. But then their children go on to succeed in every measurable outlet in life compared to other demographics.
"most likely" is in there, plus immigrant culture is different than the local culture honesly how do u explain the ever decreasing socially mobility on a country like americal where the idea of u can become anything is there but the culture is not?
if ur kids r only taught working class values by their working class parents, that kid will most likely not grow up to be banker
This is really really stupid. There is plenty of examples of people who have worked in factories who have children that went on to become highly educated to be doctors, bankers etc.
How do you explain the poor chinese immigrants that come here that struggle in low paying jobs. But then their children go on to succeed in every measurable outlet in life compared to other demographics.
no they wouldnt and thats my whole point, ur parents r not nietzschian uber men they will teach u what the ruling ideology tells u and ur mindset and behavior will be formed by ur material conditions, do u really disagree with that?
I believe that there is biological and nurture involved to create a person. In your scenario you said my same parents. What does this mean? If they aren't teaching me the same thing they taught me here are they really the same parents that taught me? What if my parents were missionaries that were from the states and I grew up in the poor community like the poor Africans but was schooled. Would my parents not be defying the culture around them and creating their own environment?
no they wouldnt and thats my whole point, ur parents r not nietzschian uber men they will teach u what the ruling ideology tells u and ur mindset and behavior will be formed by ur material conditions, do u really disagree with that?
the end of "nuclear family" is only a factor in a intersectionalist way, so it would not be a thing made on by force, it would only be cultural, where in a gift economy or a collectivist or a communist, or whatever the community would be helping each other so the single mom would not be alone as she is now under capitalism where there is no incentive for u to help her other than feeling good, much better is to give ur kids more stuff plus there is the whole decrease in working schedules that would allow the single mom to stay more time with her kids... the kid doesnt differenciate the affection it would be getting from her dad or other member of community all it needs is to be loved
A child needs an active role model to give them guidance, they need more than just love.
i mean do i really need statistics for u to understand that if u had the same parents but grow up in africa u will be a completly different person?
If my parents were born in africa would they really teach me the same things? How can you prove this theory.
the end of "nuclear family" is only a factor in a intersectionalist way, so it would not be a thing made on by force, it would only be cultural, where in a gift economy or a collectivist or a communist, or whatever the community would be helping each other so the single mom would not be alone as she is now under capitalism where there is no incentive for u to help her other than feeling good, much better is to give ur kids more stuff plus there is the whole decrease in working schedules that would allow the single mom to stay more time with her kids... the kid doesnt differenciate the affection it would be getting from her dad or other member of community all it needs is to be loved
thats like my whole point its environment not parenting...
It's been shown that a baby who isn't given enough affection will not gain weight properly. But if they are given affection and massaged everyday the baby will gain more weight then its peers and be healthier. This would be nurture.
One parent household isn't an environment the children are lacking 1/2 the nurturing that they require.
if u live in this material condition on this society u will turn out like this, if u r poorer or richer or in a different society u will turn out differently even if ur parents are the same
ppl r shapped by the material conditions around them and the ruling ideology 90% of the time, this whole parents are what makes u is nonsense and its just something ppl tell themselves to feel important. if u take someone and parent them when they r poor they will turn out one way if u give the same parenting but with them rich, they will turn out a different way or else we would be having constanst challenges to the status quo, wich we dont
more so biology is also a important factor, the whole separated twins thing shows that, where they reunite separated twins and they drive the same car, have simillar wife and lifes
How about you provide statistics that prove this. I can provide statistics that can show the detrimental effects of one parent households.
When it comes to nature vs nurture both matter, from what I recall the twins in those lived in almost identical environments.
ppl r shapped by the material conditions around them and the ruling ideology 90% of the time, this whole parents are what makes u is nonsense and its just something ppl tell themselves to feel important. if u take someone and parent them when they r poor they will turn out one way if u give the same parenting but with them rich, they will turn out a different way or else we would be having constanst challenges to the status quo, wich we dont
more so biology is also a important factor, the whole separated twins thing shows that, where they reunite separated twins and they drive the same car, have simillar wife and lifes
Lmao letting media guide your kids or school for that matter. Community does play a big role yes but I'd say the the most important is that of the parents.
Also the idea of egalitarianism is better in marriages is a myth. Relationships with swapped standard gender roles show less happiness and less sex in the marriage compared to the more standard. If you want to be an empowered feminist married you are less likely to have a happy life.
I wouldn't be happy in my relationship unless my significant other felt fulfilled in life and like they were free to pursue every dream they've ever had, instead of dependent on me and subjugated, but that's probably just the out-dated idea of loving someone that got me cheated on.
I'm not saying don't give them power to choose to live their life. All I'm saying is that sometimes the idea that social constructs dictates what we find attractive is wrong. A lot of what we find attractive is evolutionary and not something we can change because we say it is sexist.
the family idea that communist oppose is that of woman's subjugation to men, and the complete subjugation of the child to their parents, as in the kids has the right to wear what he wants or cut his hair the way he wants or listern to the music he wants. the whole communists wants 5 dads all fcking each other in free love is bullcrap
Can you quote thing he said that proves this. Also children need guidance, they can't understand how society or culture expectations works or morality on their own.
r u saying the community, media and school do not play the biggest part in that, cause i would beg to differ
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Also the idea of egalitarianism is better in marriages is a myth. Relationships with swapped standard gender roles show less happiness and less sex in the marriage compared to the more standard. If you want to be an empowered feminist married you are less likely to have a happy life.
I wouldn't be happy in my relationship unless my significant other felt fulfilled in life and like they were free to pursue every dream they've ever had, instead of dependent on me and subjugated, but that's probably just the out-dated idea of loving someone that got me cheated on.
Also the idea of egalitarianism is better in marriages is a myth. Relationships with swapped standard gender roles show less happiness and less sex in the marriage compared to the more standard. If you want to be an empowered feminist married you are less likely to have a happy life.