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GentIeman
over 7 years

You're cancer.

Even if you want to go with the uptick of fascism and white nationalism. Attacking them doesn't help your cause. All it does is give them more ammunition to say, "look how crazy the left has become".

One of the funny things is you guys fail to do is understand correlation vs causation. "After Trump won the white house, hate crimes raised."

This could also do with the fact with the high increase of terrorism in western countries in the last few years. Saying that its the west's fault for not being inclusive enough and that we should all just come together. Then terrorism will stop; Is extremely naive and counter intuitive.

I'm not saying that hate crimes of any sort should ever happen, they shouldn't, nor should certain people be barred from entering. But the liberal apology tour for other groups and just blaming the west and white people, is part of the cause for the rise of "white nationalism".

For the liberals having such a high college graduate segment, it's really sad how naive their world view is.

PeanutMarmaduke
over 7 years
did you just delete your imgur albums
projectmatt
over 7 years

groundhogday says

anyway if they're afraid to out themselves it shows what i was saying about how people know white nationalism is bad i think


well obviously not, since we have white nationalists in the first place.
projectmatt
over 7 years
http://imgur.com/a/c3xRK

http://imgur.com/a/IS3xK

here's 2 of them that weren't easily linkable to my university lol
PeanutMarmaduke
over 7 years
percentages are meaningless because 1 to 2 is a 100% increase yearly and comparing 5 dead cops to 100,000 black people is dumb
GentIeman
over 7 years

groundhogday says

anyway if they're afraid to out themselves it shows what i was saying about how people know white nationalism is bad i think


we have a discord give me ur info
GentIeman
over 7 years

projectmatt says


GentIeman says

I wasn't talking about the confederate flags. The blue lives matter and conservatives. The confederate lost, they're more pathetic then Catalonians and their non language.

Also lets get one thing straight, that deeply peeves me. When regarding right and left it refers to economic policies. A more right system of government will have a more free market and a left wing government would have more control over businesses.

So when people say facism is a far right ideology is completely fictional. Its closer to the middle in economics and extremely authoritarian.


well, blue lives matter was created in response to black lives matter, and i have a very negative view of it since i've only seen the aforementioned white nationalists proudly use that imagery, but maybe regular conservatives do too.

also, i said "very conservative", and there is certainly an overlap between the far-right and white nationalism.

also, by technical definitions, you're correct. but in america, it's simply a fact that the right tends to also be very conservative socially, which can easily breed bigotry/facism, in my opinion.


Where have I heard before that you shouldn't generalize groups of people?

Also here

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/93155124/

Attacks on cops has increased 167% while your assault on minorities is pretty low considering it's lumped in with hate crimes that includes graffiti and that's at 20%.
groundhogday
over 7 years
anyway if they're afraid to out themselves it shows what i was saying about how people know white nationalism is bad i think
groundhogday
over 7 years
how do they recruit people if they don't tell them where to go? do they have a private whitemail server with stickers of the old times?
deletedover 7 years

groundhogday says

does the n*zi student union have their own meeting room? do they bake hitler cookies for n*zo bake sales?


theres an oven joke here somewhere
GentIeman
over 7 years
[quote=projectmatt]

GentIeman says

I wasn't talking about the confederate flags. The blue lives matter and conservatives. The confederate lost, they're more pathetic then Catalonians and their non language.

Also lets get one thing straight, that deeply peeves me. When regarding right and left it refers to economic policies. A more right system of government will have a more free market and a left wing government would have more control over businesses.

So when people say facism is a far right ideology is completely fictional. Its closer to the middle in economics and extremely authoritarian.


well, blue lives matter was created in response to black lives matter, and i have a very negative view of it since i've only seen the aforementioned white nationalists proudly use that imagery, but maybe regular conservatives do too.

also, i said "very conservative", and there is certainly an overlap between the far-right and white nationalism.

also, by technical definitions, you're correct. but in america, it's simply a fact that the right tends to also be very conservative socially, which can easily breed bigotry/facism, in my opinion.[/quotte]
Where have I heard before that you shouldn't generalize groups of people?
projectmatt
over 7 years
give me like 5 mins and ill post some of the posters, BTW
projectmatt
over 7 years

PeanutMarmaduke says

also matt u are a real hero for going against the ggrain and standing up for the colored people who cannot stand up for themselves


i mean, ill remind you that the only reason im doing any of this is because i said "white nationalism is bad" and "i know some people who are white nationalists" and you guys thought i was lying for some reason?
PeanutMarmaduke
over 7 years
post pictures of the posters pls
Sims
over 7 years
i don't understand the whole fascism thing when most right-leaning people are for limited government. the liberals are definitely the more fascist ones in 2017
projectmatt
over 7 years

groundhogday says

does the n*zi student union have their own meeting room? do they bake hitler cookies for n*zo bake sales?


they put posters up to try to recruit other n*zi's, as well as spread propaganda. they don't have a meeting room because none of them are open it, which is why they put posters up at night lol
PeanutMarmaduke
over 7 years
also matt u are a real hero for going against the ggrain and standing up for the colored people who cannot stand up for themselves
PeanutMarmaduke
over 7 years

projectmatt says


PeanutMarmaduke says

no really projectmatt please go take pictures of the posters and stuff in ur town


are you implying that im lying about this? because i literally have pictures of the posters.


please post the pictures you have of the posters
groundhogday
over 7 years
does the n*zi student union have their own meeting room? do they bake hitler cookies for n*zo bake sales?
PeanutMarmaduke
over 7 years
i googled pennsylvania and found some party movement

http://www.nsm88.org/

it looks like theres barely any activity or members

http://www.nsm88.org/images/nsm_nationals_april_2017.jpg

http://nsm88forum.com/nsmforum/

all of their pictures have sub 200 views

http://gallery.nsm88.org/thumbnails.php?album=75

i might email them and ask for specific #s on their members but i feel like theyd probably lie to make them seem more prominent than they are

http://www.nsm88.org/units/pennsylvania.html

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/nsm88.org

i feel like epicmafia might have more political power than them
projectmatt
over 7 years

groundhogday says

i will paypal you five dollars if you find a swastika bumper sticker


will you paypal me five dollars if i show you the naz* posters at my university?
projectmatt
over 7 years

PeanutMarmaduke says

no really projectmatt please go take pictures of the posters and stuff in ur town


are you implying that im lying about this? because i literally have pictures of the posters.
projectmatt
over 7 years

GentIeman says

I wasn't talking about the confederate flags. The blue lives matter and conservatives. The confederate lost, they're more pathetic then Catalonians and their non language.

Also lets get one thing straight, that deeply peeves me. When regarding right and left it refers to economic policies. A more right system of government will have a more free market and a left wing government would have more control over businesses.

So when people say facism is a far right ideology is completely fictional. Its closer to the middle in economics and extremely authoritarian.


well, blue lives matter was created in response to black lives matter, and i have a very negative view of it since i've only seen the aforementioned white nationalists proudly use that imagery, but maybe regular conservatives do too.

also, i said "very conservative", and there is certainly an overlap between the far-right and white nationalism.

also, by technical definitions, you're correct. but in america, it's simply a fact that the right tends to also be very conservative socially, which can easily breed bigotry/facism, in my opinion.
groundhogday
over 7 years
i will paypal you five dollars if you find a swastika bumper sticker
PeanutMarmaduke
over 7 years
no really projectmatt please go take pictures of the posters and stuff in ur town
PeanutMarmaduke
over 7 years
i thought this was funnier than it really is but its really not funny but L O L