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EM Masked Games

Edboy
over 7 years

So I was wondering why arent masked games the norm for competitive play here? That would solve the whole meta clearing bs that goes on as well as people staring at one's stats just to see if they agree with their decision or not. It is quite annoying being in a middle of a game, im mafia, almost got the win then suddenly somebody starts getting meta cleared and town wins. Or one person that's obviously mafia will still win just simply because their stats are good and people sheep them. Logic says they're obvious mafia but their stats says win. And they gonna keep their stats good because of how a lot of people stare at them too much. I myself dont base judgement off stats but it seems it's different for a lot others.

Cody
over 7 years

xxerox says

Because you are no better than anyone else.


did i claim to be better than anyone else
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Miguel says


Miguel says


Miguel says

Does Edark still accept paypal payments to do corrupted dictatorship moves I'm willing to pay $50 bucks for a masked round


This is a serious offer




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hey fa'ggots it's me again how r u doing
Cody
over 7 years

Neopetsaresokawaii says

No. I am saying that these cheaters are so desperate to prove themselves as 'reformed', that they make up bs excuses for not wanting things such as a masked round.


there are real, gameplay related reasons for which anon games are fundamentally flawed, which have been talked about in detail in this thread
xxerox
over 7 years

Edark says

I think a masked round would be fun to have.


Then good luck enforcing it. I dare you. I will even write the rules and make the decks myself if you gonna make a god damn masked round.
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yh i didnt read ur wallposts lol
Cody
over 7 years
i kinda want to see fading in a reading comprehension class

wait that would never happen lol
Edark
over 7 years
I think a masked round would be fun to have.
Neopetsaresokawaii
over 7 years
No. I am saying that these cheaters are so desperate to prove themselves as 'reformed', that they make up bs excuses for not wanting things such as a masked round.
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you could've posted 1000 words and anyone could just respond "you modded petri" and you'd still lose the argument
xxerox
over 7 years

Cody says

I believe the cheating tolerance attitude is something set both by the community and by long-term mods and admins, with the core problem being that when popular community members ask for a cheater to receive special treatment (early unban), admins relent and consent to it, under the premise of "it's just an online party game, it's not such a big deal," which in turn causes more people to ask for special treatment --- which causes the cycle that you were talking about.

I, personally, for better or for worse, was someone that perpetuated the idea of lenience/mercy towards rule-breakers of all sorts in favor of site activity. It's left somewhat of a legacy, a status quo of sorts, that the administration after me decided to follow. Was it worth the trade-off of having this lax attitude towards cheating? That's a question for each person to decide by himself.

For me, personally, I no longer care about how active this site is or who frequents it, as long as I can spend some time with some friends on it. Thus my answer is that it was worth it, because the tables that my friends and I create are more easily filled on account of having more active users.

For people who want integrity in competitive mafia - I probably f'ucked you over.

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Because you are no better than anyone else.
Cody
over 7 years
what's funniest to me is that i could have typed at least 400-500 words of a paper that i have to submit next week in the time it took me to write that post

it's time to ghost again
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ah yes lemme go and mod a user who has been causing chaos on the site for many years and has cheated countless times. why? well bc he might be "reformed". lmao
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i'm just gonna say that cody modded petri who ended up cheating again for the millionth time which makes his wallposts hilarious
xxerox
over 7 years
I mean it that he is a piece of trash. Basically part of the Garbage.

I wont say : You are a Garbage.

I will say : You are Garbage.
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cody u r feeding da troll
Cody
over 7 years
I believe the cheating tolerance attitude is something set both by the community and by long-term mods and admins, with the core problem being that when popular community members ask for a cheater to receive special treatment (early unban), admins relent and consent to it, under the premise of "it's just an online party game, it's not such a big deal," which in turn causes more people to ask for special treatment --- which causes the cycle that you were talking about.

I, personally, for better or for worse, was someone that perpetuated the idea of lenience/mercy towards rule-breakers of all sorts in favor of site activity. It's left somewhat of a legacy, a status quo of sorts, that the administration after me decided to follow. Was it worth the trade-off of having this lax attitude towards cheating? That's a question for each person to decide by himself.

For me, personally, I no longer care about how active this site is or who frequents it, as long as I can spend some time with some friends on it. Thus my answer is that it was worth it, because the tables that my friends and I create are more easily filled on account of having more active users.

For people who want integrity in competitive mafia - I probably f'ucked you over.

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Cody
over 7 years

Neopetsaresokawaii says

The ban time does NOT matter. What matters is to what degree cheating is tolerated. The people on this site are prone to addictive personalities and depressive tendencies. As we all know, it is hard to break an addiction. This causes other addicts to shame those who they perceive inferior for cheating. If the cheater is also an addict, then he/she will more than likely want to return to 'prove' themselves and to get rid of the negative perception surrounding them.

It is a vicious cycle, and one of the many reasons that the mods and admin shouldn't rely entirely on their userbase to determine their decisions. Those who are content playing gold hearts without ever commenting in the forums don't have as much influence as the addicts who play gold hearts and are always commenting in the forums.


If I'm understanding you correctly here, what you're really against is having former (confirmed) cheaters in positions of influence on the site, as (according to you) they tolerate cheating more than people who haven't cheated before. [please let me know if I'm misunderstanding you]

While I understand and support the sentiment of reducing the tolerance for cheating, I don't believe that having former cheaters as mods and role mods increases cheating tolerance. There *is* a thing such as reform, and it is not too difficult to tell when an ex-cheater is truly reformed. More often than not the ex-cheaters are useful for their experience in understanding what constitutes cheating and what doesn't, and provide a sort of expert opinion in investigations.

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Evolutionary linguistics says there is no right or wrong
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I'm back because I have a mental illness someone please talk to me
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Shut up Zayn you are a piece of shi't who can't even read. Go fuçk yourself.
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Lono can you kindly just point out to the guy that "you are a trash" is not right lmao
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xxerox owns
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I think you're trash is slang while you are a trash is him calling you a trash can
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xxerox says

What you speak is American.


Ok I'm leaving lmao