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deletedabout 7 years

So I was in a game as town, where the cop tunneled me the whole game and I tunneled him back for tunneling me when I should be clear to him. How is a town vs town tunnel ISP really???????

The game: I waited for cop to claim but there was no claim forever. I was blue and I random guilted town to try to get reads and get cop to out. My guilt then cced me. I retracted, but the cop tunneled me for the whole game. If I had not retracted, he would have died. I should have been clear to them, because I retracted to save him and fast. Yet he continued to hard tunnel me the whole game, which made me suspect him since I could have got him shot if I kept my cop claim..

Then the following day, the cop was still alive and had a guilty. I was worried that the sheriff just followed the guilty, as it was lylo and I was not sure on the cop. I quoted the journalist report saying that the janned was blue, but I did not realize that this clears the cop. I was tunneling him too much for tunneling me, and the sheriff did not try to tell me how he was clear so I did not realize this unfortunately. I did not try to lynch the cop. I tried to lynch the 2nd mafia instead of in the cop/guilty cc, so i could see who was alive the next day.

This was not gting or ISP. It was just a miss-play caused by 2 town tunneling each other. So mods how the * is town vs town tunneling isp? I contributed fully to this game. I contributed a lot to this game overall…..this report was handled badly again. You guys always blindly follow pranay’s bs reports… Mods you dont work for pranay and your friends. You owe this community fair verdicts and you know that this one is not fair...

Bustaplease
about 7 years
https://epicmafia.com/report/213468 They threatened to give me report spam if I report it again. I don't think the same applies if you appeal it, however I doubt it would change since Merlot was the one who threatened me with report spam.
xxerox
about 7 years
With the new appeal, Lono, Charley AND patric can't do anything on the report.
xxerox
about 7 years
Anyway, You can appeal the appeal now.

Wiggaplease :

6: You cannot appeal an appeal unless the violation has changed.

the violation has been changed to no-vio.

Now you are allowed to appeal it.
xxerox
about 7 years

Whitepimp007 says


xxerox says

I deal with friends and enemy alike. What is in the rules, that is what is gonna happen.


Why do you refuse to admit that the world is composed of shades of grey? You insist that things are either black or white. Why?


What is Grey? Breaking the rules all the time, then letting it go ?

The Grey is the rules. They are the shades of White and Black.

Based on rules we judge.
Bustaplease
about 7 years
Nobody tunneled you. You were voted because you refused to acknowledge me as clear and tried to get me lynched the same day that the mafia conveniently left me alive. And, again, you were not clear. At all. There is no possible line of thinking in which I insufficiently participated or gamethrew by voting a nonclear blue who deathtunneled a clear cop.
Whitepimp007
about 7 years

xxerox says

I deal with friends and enemy alike. What is in the rules, that is what is gonna happen.


Why do you refuse to admit that the world is composed of shades of grey? You insist that things are either black or white. Why?
deletedabout 7 years

PleaseDonot says

Patryk most definitely read the game properly; this is blatant ISP and I'm confident if I had completely ignored an entire day's chat to tunnel a clear I'd have, at the very least, an ISP vio or GT vio alongside a quick refund on the game.

I'm not sure what charley or Lono's thinking was beyond not reading this game past townyy's asinine logic in not reading and then playing the victim card.


both clears tunneled each other, and I only tunneled him cause he tunneled me and I was clear...you cant give vio to one person when 2 were involved and my reads were all off the fact that I did not think the cop would tunnel a clear...
xxerox
about 7 years
I deal with friends and enemy alike. What is in the rules, that is what is gonna happen.
PleaseDonot
about 7 years
Patryk most definitely read the game properly; this is blatant ISP and I'm confident if I had completely ignored an entire day's chat to tunnel a clear I'd have, at the very least, an ISP vio or GT vio alongside a quick refund on the game.

I'm not sure what charley or Lono's thinking was beyond not reading this game past townyy's asinine logic in ignoring EVERYONE including clear and then playing the victim card.
xxerox
about 7 years
I don't take sides Townyyy.

Only thing i care about are the rules and their proper enforcement.
xxerox
about 7 years

townyyy1 says

xxero why are you so passionate to try to give me 1 isp vio now, even when its not deserved????


Because it is deserved?

Tell me, how is no violation to not know who the clear cop is ?

How is not ISP when you are not even paying attention to the game to know who is clear?
xxerox
about 7 years
At the end, Charley is the one who should talk.

Why do you sustain a report , permanently closing it without thinking, but then you change your mind for no reason try to OT already sustained report and making Lono change the verdict?

Charley, Are you so bad you can't read one game and OT it in the first place, and not Sustain it and then make people brake the rules?
deletedabout 7 years
xxero why are you so passionate to try to give me 1 isp vio now, even when its not deserved????
xxerox
about 7 years
The only bad thing here is that either 2 mods fk.ed up and can't read a game properly, or that Lono broke all sustain rules and changed already sustained report.

Either Patric and Charley are to blame or Lono.

Or The rules.

Pick one.
xxerox
about 7 years
Besides you used OGI . You controlled Charley's emotions to change their verdict (Which was already sustained and charley can't just change whenever they feel like)


You said: "I did just insult charley early today so this was a grudge thing purely..." to make Charley feel guilty and vote in your favor.
xxerox
about 7 years
https://epicmafia.com/report/213454

is not related since you can't appeal an appeal by the current ruleset.

Either change the rules or why we have rules if people will do whatever they want?
xxerox
about 7 years
https://epicmafia.com/report/213428 - Appeal

Sustained.

Report handled by Charley.
xxerox
about 7 years

townyyy1 says

1. i had talked to charley in mail before that report and posted in forums. That should never have been a vio to start with. charley could ot their own report and this gave option for lono to support it


They never publically announced it. besides Charley sustained it.

They did not vote for OT.
Bustaplease
about 7 years
This is regardless of the fact that literally townyy's entire argument was that he was participating by ignoring everyone that was talking and false claiming that he was a cop as a blue.
deletedabout 7 years
1. i had talked to charley in mail before that report and posted in forums. That should never have been a vio to start with. charley could ot their own report and this gave option for lono to support it
Bustaplease
about 7 years
Right but you can't appeal a sustained appeal first of all. This alongside the fact that I was threatened with report spam when I appealed is completely unfair to the appeal process. https://epicmafia.com/report/213451 This is where it should have ended.
deletedabout 7 years

Wiggaplease says

I seriously cannot believe you gave him a no vio and allowed him to ignore all text said on that day to tunnel a clear. After he appealed A SUSTAINED APPEAL


you really make me want to report you for gting/isp. i was clear to you and you tunneled me and a lead lynch on me.....you should have really followed what happened this game, as I should have been clear to you if you paid attention. If you spammed how you were clear instead of that i was mafia and you were clear, then maybe we would have had different results
deletedabout 7 years

xxerox says

The report was initially Sustained btw.


Lono, you have no right to touch Sustained report by the current rules.

Unless the rules are changed and all.


the initial person that sustained it, changed it to OT so they could
xxerox
about 7 years
Original report was handled by PatrykSzczescie

Appeal was handled by Charley.

The report was Sustained.

After that Lono alone changes the verdict by his own violation, ignoring all set rules?
xxerox
about 7 years
The report was initially Sustained btw.


Lono, you have no right to touch Sustained report by the current rules.

Unless the rules are changed and all.