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i was having a discussion w my friends and they were arguing that being kind makes you a good person. i personally disagree with this because i feel like people are kind in part because they want to feel good about themselves, not because they're good people. i was just wondering what other people thought about this bc i feel like i have kind of an unpopular opinion on the matter.

have you ever been completely selfless in your reasoning for doing something?
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glow says

i would rather someone be a btch to me than be fake


Mhm, I'm not convinced.
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Miguel says

they aren't bad either


if someone acts spitefully and does "bad" things intentionally and makes no attempt to be good at any point in their lives then they're bad in my book though
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It's also strange that in the 90 minutes since the birth of this thread 3 people convinced themselves they've (repeatedly?) done something purely from the good of their hearts.
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glow says


elephantasm says

I don't know why I'm even posting in this thread since I feel worse for it and I don't think I'm contributing anything, nor do I think it's an important discussion, so I guess it's procrastination

Glad to see jess sheeped gerry


lol why do things have to be important for you to discuss them that's stupid


they don't but i'm being silly because if it doesn't matter to me and it's not important and my view is uninformed and imprecise there's no reason for me to keep at this

me, personally, not people in general
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they aren't bad either
over 8 years
I hope that helps, OP.
over 8 years
People aren't good.
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glow says

i would rather someone be a btch to me than be fake


same but i wouldn't call fake friendliness "kindness"

not sure what the dictionary definition of kindness is but I mean
over 8 years

elephantasm says

I don't know why I'm even posting in this thread since I feel worse for it and I don't think I'm contributing anything, nor do I think it's an important discussion, so I guess it's procrastination

Glad to see jess sheeped gerry


lol why do things have to be important for you to discuss them that's stupid
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I don't know why I'm even posting in this thread since I feel worse for it and I don't think I'm contributing anything, nor do I think it's an important discussion, so I guess it's procrastination

Glad to see jess sheeped gerry
over 8 years
i would rather someone be a btch to me than be fake
over 8 years

expose says

Humans are multifaceted. The same individual who chooses to be kind to one can also choose to be unkind to another.

The person they are kind to will view them as a kind individual, loyal friend, warm, affectionate, comfortable.

The person they are unkind to will view them as an unkind individual, b*tch, scum of the earth, disgusting human being.

Instead of trying to conform people to a single characteristic it's better to just treat people the way you want to be treated. If they continue to be an a*sshole to you then they're not worth your time.

It's really that simple.


i dont think its reasonable to ask people to be kind to everyone, especially when their kindness isn't genuine
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Morality itself is an abstraction and not defined in concrete terms, thus a matter of perspective. People can be both bad and good. Not that there aren't people who do really great things or really bad things and deserve to be recognized as such. I just think one should keep in mind that it's not as simple as that.
over 8 years
Humans are multifaceted. The same individual who chooses to be kind to one can also choose to be unkind to another.

The person they are kind to will view them as a kind individual, loyal friend, warm, affectionate, comfortable.

The person they are unkind to will view them as an unkind individual, b*tch, scum of the earth, disgusting human being.

Instead of trying to conform people to a single characteristic it's better to just treat people the way you want to be treated. If they continue to be an a*sshole to you then they're not worth your time.

It's really that simple.
over 8 years

elephantasm says

i mean i get the motivation for asking the question and have asked it myself in the past but at this point in time i just don't think it gets anywhere. I think your friends are wrong but I also think it's better to encourage people to be kind and impossible to truly know people's motivations. I mean, I don't know about you, but I don't even know my own motivation half the time. Is it any better to do it because you don't like to see people suffering than because you want to "be a good person"? I think it just depends on the situation and I don't think it's something you can really generalize. Or at least, I can't. But kindness and self-sacrifice should be encouraged, and unfortunately, we can't really peer into others' minds.


is it wrong to ask questions just because you think the discussion won't get anywhere
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bebop won this thread
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i mean i get the motivation for asking the question and have asked it myself in the past but at this point in time i just don't think it gets anywhere. I think your friends are wrong but I also think it's better to encourage people to be kind and impossible to truly know people's motivations. I mean, I don't know about you, but I don't even know my own motivation half the time. Is it any better to do it because you don't like to see people suffering than because you want to "be a good person"? I think it just depends on the situation and I don't think it's something you can really generalize. Or at least, I can't. But kindness and self-sacrifice should be encouraged, and unfortunately, we can't really peer into others' minds.
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if thats true then the best metaphor for the whole yachi x glow x sinead x dag debacle would be spilling ur coffee on ur thighs while driving and suing mcdonalds
over 8 years
comp without yachi is like cigs without coffee
over 8 years
Okay being kind doesn't necessarily make you a good person but it certainly doesnt hurt.

I think getting overly philosophical is pretty pointless. Screw technicalities.

Being nice to people is good! Even if you are being kind to make yourself feel good, its still a GOOD thing!

I say if being kind makes YOU happy and OTHERS happy its a pretty good thing. I'd be inclined to say you are a good person for being kind.

I think you have to be quite cynical to condemn people for being nice for selfish reasons.
over 8 years
It's good to have kind people
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im sad that yachi is dead

sometimes i think to myself "what would yachi do?"

but those times are usually when im in the middle of miserable games so i decide to not act on those thoughts
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jeff is the yachi whisperer now
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huh
over 8 years
smh jeff can we not do this