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Well, him reporting it only incriminated himself.

Ninja probably shouldn't have reported Wei.

There's always a casualty when someone breaks a rule, but ptaqll was the most logical man-down

i still feel really bad for ptaqll though.

You're a good man, fnoof

verdict is in: no refund and wei's vio has been self-OTed to a note.

Rutab is 100% right. The town who didn't know Ninja's c/p wasn't real would definitely have lynched wei if they didn't also show a copypaste in rebuttal. It's like when people are guisetesting and someone refuses to answer guisetest questions (whether due to a personal nature, out of principal, or otherwise) and they get lynched for not willing to be guisetested, even though they're actually town.

ptaqll says

no Rutab, he knew Panda is fake so there is no way Panda was copy pasting. He knew.

The other people in the game didn't though, and that's what matters in the point I'm making

no Rutab, he knew Panda is fake so there is no way Panda was copy pasting. He knew.

thx broski

wei felt compelled to c/p because his CC did, and he thought he would lose his CC because of it

that's justified imo, and deserves the leeway you dont wanna give

If this doesn't get refunded I would hop on everygame with runners and copy paste as town PR and hope one of 'em is scum

wei wasn't compelled by any measure to c/p a report themselves. i don't see why i should offer any leeway on that count. but the more i talk about this, the more i feel like it's not going to get refunded. i'll update you as this develops...

lol, trust me i know dude

it used to be wayyyyy worse

but if this doesnt get refunded i would just cancel the vio that wei has

no it's not refunded yet lol. there's bureaucratic red tape when it comes to these things.

ah, yeah i was misunderstanding then

i was just saying that b/c in the refund thread, there isn't a chance for a refund in a simple c/p vio

interesting

glad that it got refunded, then

i'm just one mod. there's no guarantee whatsoever that it will actually get refunded. if anything this is a valuable case study for me to learn from.

i don't think you understood my wording. it was the journalist's c/p that prompted my decision to confirm a refund for the game.

I did read the report

but if you're asking me to do that, you're not understanding what I am trying to say

yes, i know rutab.
read the report.

fnoof says

it's the journalist's c/p that prompted it, not the mafia's.

Unless I am missing something, the first c/p to happen in that game was by NinjaPanda358, the nilla

it's the journalist's c/p that prompted it, not the mafia's.

I don't know if under the current refund rules, the original (mafia) copy and paster would be enough to refund the whole game

in that case, i wouldn't be able to refund the game which the other players rightfully deserve.

I feel like this is one of those times you look past the textbook rule-breakings and just give them a break lol