over 7 years

I used to lie awake at night wondering "How does such a bad player maintain a 56% win ratio and be awarded 7 trophies in 11 months?"

Now I know.


Part one: The method


It all began to make sense to me after playing a game and filing this report https://epicmafia.com/report/200545

During the game (VDLI), both PRs allowed Gerry (mafia) to claim their role and hammer with no repercussions two days in a row for no apparent reason, giving the mafia a free win.

The moderator handling the report ruled that it was "very bad play" and not "gamethrowing", even though it's a well documented fact that players that allow the mafia to cc their role like this get violations. (two examples: https://epicmafia.com/report/204140 https://epicmafia.com/report/203429)

None of the other players reported anyone even though it was clear that both PRs gamethrew.

These three elements summarise the keys to Gerry's success.

Unsurprisingly, the PRs of the aforementioned game are both accounts owned by Gerry's friends. One is owned by Elise, a player with over 42000 profile views on one account and known to be friends with Gerry. The other is named after Gerry and uses one of his previous avatars.

The first key is that Gerry's friends play towards his win condition, not their own.

For most players, this wouldn't be enough. Most players' friends would get banned and the games would be refunded. Not with Gerry though. The moderator team will always do what benefits Gerry when it comes to reports filed in favour of or not in favour of Gerry. Why? Because Gerry is a moderator himself. Not only is Gerry a moderator himself, but most if not all of the moderators are friends with Gerry, and a lot of Gerry's friends have ties to the moderator team.

This is a screenshot of Gerry's epicmafia family, annotated with information that ties the listed players to the moderator team. All of the labelled players have been able to decide the verdicts of reports. This shows that Gerry can likely influence which players become moderators.

The second key is that Gerry can manipulate the moderator team easily.

For some time, these two keys would be enough, but eventually questions would be asked. However, Gerry has maintained this control over the website for years. That's where the final piece comes into play. Not only does Gerry have direct control over the group of friends that he plays with and the moderator team, but he also has a more subtle control over the majority of the rest of the playerbase. Most players don't dare to file reports that would be a problem for him, or feel that it will be a waste of time because of the second key.

The third key is the control over the general playerbase.


Part two: The investigation


Now that Gerry's underhanded method has been revealed, the legitimacy of his trophies and win ratio comes into question.

In the order that they are listed on his profiles, the following comments can be made about the rounds that Gerry trophied in:


https://epicmafia.com/round/367

This is a screenshot of the top of the list of players that Gerry played with during this round. Of the 7 players listed (Burgers and Lumos are the same person), 3 are members of Gerry's family, and one (Burgers) has been friends with Gerry for a long time.

Burgers had at least 18 games played with Gerry during this round. Check the any of the previous rounds, virtually never does anyone have 18 games played with the same player in one round.

Also, Burgers had a disproportionate number of games with Gerry this round.


https://epicmafia.com/round/438

The player that Gerry played with most here was PonyLove, a member of Gerry's family and also a moderator. Here are PonyLove's games for this round.

Additionally, Ripple and SheepPotato (both Gerry's mentees) played a total of 15 games with Gerry (incomplete games included), from which Gerry picked up 9 wins and 1 loss. The player that Ripple played with the most was Gerry.


https://epicmafia.com/round/334

4 of the players here are members of Gerry's family, and the other is a moderator.


https://epicmafia.com/round/378

This is a link to MrsWiggles' profile - https://epicmafia.com/user/527946#/ - The round ended 10 months ago (as this is being written), which is the exact time that MrsWiggles stopped playing. They have 4000 points. It looks like they came out of nowhere at the start of the round and disappeared straight after, once Gerry had won.

Screenshot of Lumos' games from this round:


https://epicmafia.com/round/346

Note is one of Gerry's alts.

This is the top of the list of the players that Gerry played with. RinLin9 and Mori are both members of Gerry's family. Stiffy became a moderator after this thread was published.

RinLin9 has a disproportionate number of games with Gerry:


https://epicmafia.com/round/413

NB: Ripple had at least 11 games with Gerry this round, counting alts.

Vinaybn is, like MrsWiggles, another user that no one's ever heard of that disappeared as soon as Gerry won the round that they played with him in, in this case, 8 months ago.

Giga13 is an "ally" of Gerry's family.

PonyLove, Johnreid, and Mori are all members of Gerry's family.

Ripple is an ex-member of Gerry's family, and currently one of Gerry's mentees.


https://epicmafia.com/round/425

Lazy is one of Gerry's alts.

SheepPotato and Himiko are both Gerry's mentees.

PonyLove and Maldito (JeffreyAaron) are members of Gerry's family. JeffreyAaron played an additional 9 games with Gerry on his alts, as you can see further down on the list, totalling 19 games overall.

The fifth player on this list, Infinity, is an alt of one of Gerry's friends, the account is "in love with" Note.


https://epicmafia.com/round/500

GundamTanaka is one of Gerry's alts.

YoSoyPabloEscobar is Lumos. Papuito, xPooky, and Nicol are Gerry's friends.

over 7 years
Gerry has thrown for me in the past too, please don't forget that this is a mutually beneficial throw circle.
over 7 years
I used to lie awake at night wondering where the sun went.

Then it dawned on me.
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his defense is sarcasm, must be guilty.
over 7 years
Hey Gerry, this whole thread is about how bad-a$$ you are. A smirk and a wink is the only rebuttal you need.
over 7 years
Half of Epicmafia's userbase is only here to throw for me. I've also corrupted the admin and mods to throw for me. Also the silent ISPers are also here to throw for me. You've caught me
over 7 years
Part one makes me want to investigate how the mods killed competitive by allowing bad play with the the excuse of bad play and no one stopped this from happening.
over 7 years
[quote=Entil]

Zhuorb says

to be fair he files multiple reports a week


Dont drag me into this poo throwing contest, if you want to get something done then get the entire community behind you, overthrow the current mod clique and show you can do it better.
If you're not interested in leading these goats and do moan about the current state of affairs, then l[/quoteL

Wouldn't you consider writing this essay to be attempting to do just that?
over 7 years

ark says


Mori says

This is even funnier cause he forgot to add Jeff is an Ex Admin and pingu is Literally The Current Admin


The evidence keeps piling up. lol


I know, right? It's almost as though he doesn't know I'm user RinLin9.
over 7 years

Mori says

This is even funnier cause he forgot to add Jeff is an Ex Admin and pingu is Literally The Current Admin


The evidence keeps piling up. lol
over 7 years
This is even funnier cause he forgot to add Jeff is an Ex Admin and pingu is Literally The Current Admin
over 7 years

Zhuorb says

to be fair he files multiple reports a week


Dont drag me into this poo throwing contest, if you want to get something done then get the entire community behind you, overthrow the current mod clique and show you can do it better.
If you're not interested in leading these goats and do moan about the current state of affairs, then Idgaf.
I moan more often then not myself but more because im bored then i am ready to change whatever i disagree upon. If you can make the time to make this big of a post, then go ahead and take the seat johnny. Otherwise go play the game, be a troll or stfu.
over 7 years

Entil says

just saiyan that moaning about it and doing 0 things to improve it is just as worse.


to be fair he files multiple reports a week
over 7 years
Corrected two mistakes in the OP and added three more investigated trophies
over 7 years
thread of the year imo

you have gerry down to a tee
over 7 years
Why am I the only mod that got a paragraph about them and my round stats posted? I mean, that round was before I was a mod... 14 months ago.
over 7 years
this thread made me realise the clique works both ways. Also that people tend to give too many fks for their own good.
If you don't like the corrupt mod system, then leave scrub. things wont change, they will never change and most of you dont want it to change. So cut yourself in your fall out boy bedroom and be done with it, much easier this way.
Not saying I do not agree with the system, just saiyan that moaning about it and doing 0 things to improve it is just as worse. Fk off, make things better or be a player like 95% of the em player base. The choice is yours.
over 7 years
Gerry's Methods
over 7 years
dont listen to vilden who had to have abc throw for him to win a few trophies lol
over 7 years

ABUSIVE says

look at all these ppl posting sarcastically (i.e. xxnicolexx) who are the same ppl who play for gerry's win


when i barely play comp and the last time i remember playing with gerry we were both mafia
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you are the better indian here
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pranay what will YOU do about it
over 7 years
The real question is- what are you gonna do about it yoyo?
over 7 years
gripping
over 7 years
look at all these ppl posting sarcastically (i.e. xxnicolexx) who are the same ppl who play for gerry's win
over 7 years

XXNicoleXX says

bump everyone needs to see this lovely thread


yes they really do cuz it's quite accurate