yeah, i personally don't believe there should really be a rule to restrict how many games you play though which was my second point in that post. theres either wrongdoing or there isn't and i guess the approach the mod team seems to be taking is that its too hard to prove whether there is truly anything wrong going on, so they're just gonna put restrictions on it
i 100% agree with you that people playing with their friends have an advantage over others but that is unfortunate and life is life.
in other words, i don't mind if they have an advantage over me because they get to play with somebody they know more well/i have to play with somebody that could be a gamethrowing alt blah blah blah. i only mind when theres blatant bias/"rule breaking"
deletedover 7 years
There wasn't and never will be. We can't force people to stop playing with friends, nor is it a good standard. It's really a matter of integrity at this rate.
I've been in games with you guys and I don't think you deliberately cheat or have a cheating mindset in mind. What unfair is unfair though
deletedover 7 years
We've got something in place for the future but now it's just a matter of deciding if the friend bias is enough to not let them trophy. I don't like using meta abuse in this category because it's dirty and something that can't really be proven, which is why it's hard to do investigations like this or waste time reading games.
I honestly don't care whether these particular 3 players get suspended or not what I argue is a change of the rules as said above (in my post not xjuicy's)
But what I'm saying is it's rare we have an easy read on each other. Like I've had games where I've town v town tunnelled with a friend. You can look at some people's games and they'll ask their friend 1 or 2 questions and then be confident of their role, but I never have those situations.
What I'm basically saying is that there's room for stricter regulation since the competition right now is not fair for the whole playerbase as individual competitors.
It's not about winning against/losing against it's about the mutual wins that you can easily farm together lmao
deletedover 7 years
There's going to be bias between friends regardless of how many times you deny it. I don't believe there's a ground for banning people from playing from their friends, but if you're winning 19 games against them then your friends must be really bad at mafia.
I was told under 20 is best and the only person I play near that many games with is swan/mindful, and reading our games proves we don't always read each other easily. She literally made me doubt her ate forever by going hardcore and making me mishammer. Sometimes, sure, just like you can get easy reads on anyone, but I prefer not to play in games full of friends and have expressed that whenever it's happened. I genuinely find it unpleasant to play and would rather avoid it.
I think you shouldn't be allowed to play a large number of games with mostly your friends to trophy. it's just unfair and that's it. Wanna play together? make your own lobby or enjoy redhearts or even the same goldhearts but don't run at the same time
remember that these top 3 are probably getting sh!t for meta abusing/etc so they're likely going to assume you're jumping on the same criticism of their trophying
