over 8 years

I know I said I'm leaving this site but all of my friends are asleep and I really have nobody to turn to.

My friend is cutting and he keeps saying he is going to kill himself in the next day or two. What should I do? For reasons I don't want to dive into, I am somewhat responsible for his depression and recent downturn so he does not want to listen to me, but I worry he is going to kill himself if I don't say anything.

I'm worried, guys

over 8 years
let him die, it would be selfish to prevent someone from doing what they want just to make yourself feel better
over 8 years
Or picture him 20 years down the line with zero attachments and incredibly happy. But basically just stop him there's not much of a moral dilemma if the person isn't operating on a rational thought process.
over 8 years
If you really think he's going to do it, do whatever you can to stop him. He may not like you for it now but just picture him 20 years down the line with a wife and kids.
over 8 years
He's calling the suicide hotline for his area right now, and if he still wants to go through with it there is a moral dilemma I am facing
over 8 years

fair says

them getting mad is literally the least of your concerns, it's more they might actually panic and more seriously harm themselves if they're warned about anything that might impede their freedom of action, something most people don't like already even when in a rational state of thought.


This is entirely true, which is why the only good way to go about it is doing what you can to shift his mindset. It's about giving him what he needs to get to the other side on his own.
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calling a suicide hotline while a minor won't get you anywhere these days. you'll just be put on suicide watch/a mental hospital which frankly is bad but if youre really ythat worried for them go forit
over 8 years
He also wants to die, so what he wants probably shouldn't be a top priority
over 8 years
them getting mad is literally the least of your concerns, it's more they might actually panic and more seriously harm themselves if they're warned about anything that might impede their freedom of action, something most people don't like already even when in a rational state of thought.
over 8 years
with how bear described the situation he probably doesnt want to hear that coming from him
over 8 years
The police will get him on suicide watch and he'll feel more distanced from people than he already does
over 8 years
no he should tell him all that after the police deals with the situation
over 8 years

fair says


Sonrio says

im just talking from personal experience. things really do get out of hand when you try to help directly :(


No it's true people react badly.


Them getting mad at you doesn't mean it doesn't help
over 8 years
Tell him he knows that what he's feeling will pass. Tell him that even if he doesn't want to experience a better side right now, he has wanted to at some point and he'll want to again. It doesn't matter what's true because what he's thinking isn't any more or less true than the other side. Tell him that he can reframe what he expects to get out of things and find new ways to think. Finding someone to talk to about exactly what's happening in his mind will help him understand it, and when he understands it it will get better and he'll be able to appreciate it being better.
over 8 years
I think he is actually asleep but no way am I hanging up the skype call
over 8 years
Yeh, and also just because keeping them talking might keep them from doing something else.
over 8 years
ya but he still should keep in contact to make sure he's still there, you know?
over 8 years

Sonrio says

im just talking from personal experience. things really do get out of hand when you try to help directly :(


No it's true people react badly.
over 8 years
Arcbell if you can't find it let me know and I'll give it a go.
over 8 years
im just talking from personal experience. things really do get out of hand when you try to help directly :(
over 8 years
Yeah I'm for sure not telling him that I've done anything

I'm pretty sure he's asleep but there's no way I'm getting off this skype call
over 8 years
Although with cutting it's a bit harder to talk the cops out of it.
over 8 years
wow this melts my heart. u guys have been helping bear!! this makes me so happy. i think i have a faith in humanity again
over 8 years

Sonrio says

im glad to see arcbell finally putting his skills to good use.

id say to not tell him the police or whatever are coming tho.


Yeh it's a pretty poor idea to give indication like that. People either try to accelerate or try to avoid getting taken to the hospital so they can continue.
over 8 years
im glad to see arcbell finally putting his skills to good use.

id say to not tell him the police or whatever are coming tho.
over 8 years
which skype is active rn?