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What would you do?

over 8 years

Scenario 1:

8 way Jan 2.0 cus of doc save (on the cop who won the CC). The Cop has a guilty. Do you lynch the guilty (due to possibly being lawyer), or NL?

Scenario 2:

6 way Jan 2.0. Cop has 2 innos on blues, doc is CC'ed. (the other person is uncc'ed ORC) Do you lynch in Doc CCs for autowin (if Lawyer is lynched) or do you NL because you fear MYLO (and end up in the exact same situation in 3 way but with no autowin).

Please vote/explain your raitonale.

WWYD?
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Lynch the guilty, lynch for autowin
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NL, NL
deletedover 8 years
I got a big c0ck
over 8 years
Win one nowadays where the rounds don't have people with 16-19 records on the leaderboard lmfao.
over 8 years
i already have so...
over 8 years
First of you two to win a trophy wins the argument.
over 8 years
i would suicide from the game
over 8 years
yeah, but apparently a whole thread was needed to show Third why NLing either time was unoptimal
over 8 years
scenario 1 isn't something thats so bad it deserves a thread over


scenario 2... why would you ever NL? if both blues were innoed, law is confirmed in docs in one night and has to sac
over 8 years
dude ur the only 1 who thinks NL is optimal literally every1 has told u why it isnt
deletedover 8 years

Iceaac says

The reward of lynching lawyer is greater than the associated risk of MYLO in that game.

Miller has no choice but to claim miller (and really, the miller was null and wasn't overtly towny).

If we NL'ed in 8 way and dzanek died, then now its even worse for town because guilty is alive and lawyer CCs me.

If we NL'ed in 8 way and I died, then cop now has 1 guilty report and cop is forced to scumhunt.

I had no cofidence in the cop (who made it clear she was indecisive) and I was not going to trust you when you were spamming and being toxic all game. Lynching was the optimal choice (TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE GAME AND NOT JUST RAW PROBABILITY).

Even on raw probability alone, lynching the lawyer is near autowin for town.


If we NL'ed in the 8 way and dzanek died, pranay would literally be confirmed mafia and the final one would be between spotting and Director, making it auto.

If you died, I would've lynched pranay over anyone else considering he was my top fos. I orc'd him every night minus the last one to prove that.

You don't acknowledge the fact that pranay was buddying you and I thought he was very scummy, and you said before that mafia couldn't buss into autoloss, so why would pranay buss spotting? There was literally no evidence that game to make me townread you in any way before the 6 way, and the only people to call you town were the morons who still don't understand what graveyard vision is. There have been threads about it. Maybe if the town members that were alive actually heavily agreed with you in the day told me that I was wrong, then I'd listen to it. I'm not gonna listen to people that weren't in the game itself or were dead during the 6 way. They don't understand what it was like from our POV, plain and simple
over 8 years
Lunch both times because only p*ssies fear mylo
over 8 years

Iceaac says

https://epicmafia.com/game/5183739/review


Town lynching the guilty on Day 2 was the right play

On Day 3 the village should have lynched in doctors; lynching in doctors gave the village a 50% chance at autowin

But Iceaac, this one game doesn't mean ThirdAug is necessarily is a terrible player, you need to stop being so unnecessarily extreme/toxic and you need to stop blowing things out of proportion all the time whenever you get mad, it's silly and childish. You could honestly earn a lot more respect around here if you changed your attitude
over 8 years
Can we please devise a better training setup so players like Third don't develop the aformentioned bad behaviour that is anti competitive.

Blacklist FP and replace it with something else. G&H is rly good as a beginner setup but we need something else that's not FP.

TMTG is also rly good at instilling good mafia behaviour even tho its RNG heavy lol
over 8 years
over 8 years
Please link the game
over 8 years
The reward of lynching lawyer is greater than the associated risk of MYLO in that game.

Miller has no choice but to claim miller (and really, the miller was null and wasn't overtly towny).

If we NL'ed in 8 way and dzanek died, then now its even worse for town because guilty is alive and lawyer CCs me.

If we NL'ed in 8 way and I died, then cop now has 1 guilty report and cop is forced to scumhunt.

I had no cofidence in the cop (who made it clear she was indecisive) and I was not going to trust you when you were spamming and being toxic all game. Lynching was the optimal choice (TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE GAME AND NOT JUST RAW PROBABILITY).

Even on raw probability alone, lynching the lawyer is near autowin for town.
deletedover 8 years
I'm talking about during the 8 way LMAO
over 8 years
The moment Ideal realised he was being salty over a fact he got wrong lmao
over 8 years
dzanek was claiming blue???

What are you on about?

The lawyer was ccing me, I was doc.

Cop had 2 innos on dzanek and pranay?
deletedover 8 years
The inno report on dzanek only furthers the fact that he could have been doctor
deletedover 8 years
They did not know the doctor in you or dzanek. If they hit dzanek it was autowin for the town you fool. You didn't claim doctor until the 6 way.
over 8 years
Reread the game, Crazy had Inno on both panthero and Dzanek.
over 8 years
No lynching forces the mafia to kill the doc. They have no other choice but to kill the doc, which leads to 3 way, a 50-50 between blues.

Why would you NL and end up with the exact same situation when you have a 50-50 right there and autowin if you lynch right?
deletedover 8 years

Iceaac says


Ideal says

If we had no lynched, and the mafia decided to kill dzanek over you, it would literally confirm pranay as mafia because the nilla gets lawed. It would then be autowin for town because spotting wouldn't be able to cc doctor into autoloss. You don't understand that if we no lynched and they hit dzanek over you, it would have been town autowin.


Mafia have 0 reason to hit dzanek because cop has innos on both of them (which confirms the lawyer is CCIng doc). If the maf killed a blue, they would be in autoloss.

By NLing, you forced mafia to kill the real doc, which lead us to 3 way, which is the exact same 50/50 as in 6 way except now, we don't have a shot at autowin.


The cop didn't have an inno on dzanek, something is wrong with your brain. They had no choice but to sacc you or dzanek, it was a 50/50 shot at autowin if we no lynched, and it was the optimal move.
over 8 years

Iceaac says

@Froce: If we lynched lawyer, cop can check the blues for an actual report and it's autowin.


??? you're repeating yourself over and over i already explained how one course of action is no different from the other
over 8 years
@Ideal: You're still the only one who thinks NL, NL is the optimal choice mate. You don't even have to be in the game to understand why lynching both times is the optimal choice in Jan 2.0

I'll leave it to a mod/mentor to explain to you why because I've explained best as I can and you still can't seem to understand.