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Middle East War Argument Transcript

over 8 years

Philosopher: When somebody has a problem, do you care about it?

American: No.

Philosopher: What if you created that problem for the person?

American: I don't care.

Philosopher: Should they care if they created the problem for you?

The american purposely chooses to be an anus

American: No.

Philosopher: Then why do you care if the middle easterns destroyed your buildings or not?

Damage control begins

American: You don't make any sense.

Philosopher: Isn't the war in the middle east about revenge for what they did to us? Haven't we did something to them as well? Such as destroy the nuclear power plant they were building in Iraq? Such as turn a first world country into the third world country so some proxy state could corporate take over?

Hypothetical point

American: No, they don't like our "freedom". We have more then them and they hate it.

Philosopher: So we are attacking them because they are haters. So if our government can do this then surely they should pass a law that allows me to do this on the streets to other people I know. Just attack them for hating me. Do you think maybe they hate us because we attacked their nuclear power plant and have constantly trying to have a corporate take over in their countries through economic attacks as well and maybe attempt to enforce our ways that we live on people who already were able to live in their own ways?

Maximum damage control

American: You need help.

over 8 years
donion rings.

I know I say this a lot and nobody takes it serious and thinks I'm just repeating a bunch of prophecy mumbo jumbo, but, history does repeat itself. The reason issue here people need to look at isn't how to stop these guys, but, how to prevent them from existing in the first place. The people in charge in the world right now are so selfish, every member in any position of power in the western world would sooner create a time machine to kill the leaders and commit genocide themselves, then they would, fix the problem.

My father said that there is going to be one more Hitler before humanity ends and I strongly believe him, as there have been many Hitlers throughout. Because history repeats itself, the words of wise people aren't oracles or revelations from the future, but, from the past. Human nature doesn't change much, like a fractal being analysed. In fact there is a picture in the Denver Colorado airport depicting how my father said the next Hitler would appear.

In the end of everything, including humanity, I ask the question of who is ever really guilty when everything has a reason. The criminals become the victims by law, and the victims become the criminals. The straw that breaks the camels back is the one that enslaves humanity. Sometimes we can do things and understand them until somebody else does them. Look at Russia for a moment. Their history repeats itself. How history will repeat itself "now" is all based on what country will dominate the world. All countries repeating history is horrible and this is why fundamentalist exist, but, when you find the answer, the only way you can create the answer is to create your own country. Although the terrorist are incorrect about their fundamental conclusions, I can't say they aren't intelligent for the strategy being used here and because the fact that they are just mowing through people.
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nappeh1 says

kinda relevant to Golbolco's post: https://amp.twimg.com/v/aac8a1a6-de0f-4c31-8227-9caecf7d4b23

also #freekurdistan


Put the Kurdish government in charge of Iran.
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kinda relevant to Golbolco's post: https://amp.twimg.com/v/aac8a1a6-de0f-4c31-8227-9caecf7d4b23

also #freekurdistan
over 8 years
This wasn't the end, though; in Iraq, even after Hussein's regime was toppled, they had forgotten the key thing that happens with terrorist cells (especially fundamentalist ones): they split, mutate and fester like metastasized cancer. This is what happened in Iraq to a branch of Al Qaeda that had been blissfully overlooked. This group decided to rebrand themselves as the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (or Syria). There's only like 15 of these guys somewhere in the desert, so nobody is particularly interested right now.

Now in the neighboring country of Syria, a man named Bashir Assad is in power; he is cut from the same cloth as Hussein, actually, but a lot worse at his job as under him a civil war starts. ISIS sees this war as the perfect chance and enters the country to wreak havoc. After a while, they start to spill back over into Iraq and decide to take over Mosul. This russles the Iraqi government's jimmies quite well, as this isn't just a takeover of a major city, but the entire northern quadrant of the country (who the last dictator tried to commit genocide on) decide that they're donion rings and start their own war against ISIS. We call these people Kurds, and they're seemingly the only group everyone agrees are the good guys in the Middle East.

One Russian oligarch, a Turkish dictator in the making, and another Israeli-Palestinian conflict later, and we get the wonders of the modern day Middle East.
over 8 years
So this got the Americans pretty riled up, but they had their own problems: mainly, half the country had decided that they never wanted to consider the opinions of the other half valid ever again. This group of people were called Democrats, who were upset that their latest savior Al Gore had been defeated in a presidential race by the Republicans's latest savior George W. Bush, who was coincidentally son of the George Bush who was president during the first war with Iraq.

So half of the country decided that anything Bush said from here on out was garbage; which to be fair, they were correct about 50% of the time, but it's unclear how much of that was fed to Dubya.

Now Dubya calls for war in Afghanistan after repeated warnings to the Afghani government to turn over Osama bin Laden and the other high-ups in Al Qaeda. This is okay in most reasonable people's eyes. Then he calls for war in Iraq, which is weird because as far as anyone knew Iraq had no prior connection to Al Qaeda. Some people will tell you that Bush was trying to "finish his daddy's legacy in Iraq", but I would not value these people's opinions very highly. Supposedly the CIA had found information about WMDs in Iraq put there by Al Qaeda, but where they got that information is beyond me.

Several bloody years later and the next president, Barack Obama, finally pinpoints bin Laden and has him killed by Seal Team 6.
over 8 years
The Americans funded this man named Osama bin Laden to help fight against the Soviet takeover of Afghanistan. Little did the Americans realize that bin Laden was a radical Muslim and scholar of Muhammad. bin Laden used this money to create the Taliban, a group primarily run out of madrasas to help secure the Afghani future.

This other man named Saddam Hussein was dictator of Iraq, a primarily-Arab nation. His philosophies primarily stemmed from pan-Arab nationalism and Stalinism. He ended up trying to invade Kuwait not only for economic reasons (sweet bedouin black gold), but also for the same reason the Germans annexed Austria prior to World War II. The Americans, who were allied with the Kuwaitis, invaded Iraq because they didn't want Kuwait's oil reserves to be controlled by a Stalinistic, Arab supremacist jingoist.

The Americans were also buddy-buddy with Saudi Arabia and after the first war in Iraq were asked to station troops in Saudi territory in case Hussein for spreading his pan-Arab sentiment.

Now bin Laden was a very religious man and he didn't like the idea of non-Muslims (infidels, "Romans" as they were usually referred to) so close to Mecca and Medina, the holy cities of Islam. He and his Taliban friends got together in a Pakistani cave one fine morning and called themselves "Al Qaeda," in English meaning "the base," in reference to their fundamentalist ideals (the basics.) Bin Laden made a series of threats to the US for a very long time throughout the 90s, but because this guy was a Saudi aristocrat living off CIA money, nobody particularly cared.

Until the Pentagon, the WTC, and a field in Pennsylvania got hit by planes.
over 8 years
you can tell by his paragraphs the philosopher's jimmies are rustled
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over 8 years
not sure if attempt at humour or low quality bait
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over 8 years
>kebab apologists
over 8 years
ITT: people not recognizing islam has a number of problems that contribute to this nasty jihadi radical sentiment
over 8 years

DouradaGrelhada says

Wat the F*ck is This


Damage control detected.
over 8 years
Wat the F*ck is This
over 8 years

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