Starfuel's the single most contemptible person I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with on this website, and I sleep easy at night knowing that (like everyone else in her life) I will never actually have to interact with her or anyone like her through anything but a screen.

MAn, I hate strangers on the internet - let me share with you my distaste for a fellow stranger on the internet, stranger on the internet.

starfuel's a cool person IMO

thats rude

I'd rather attend a trump rally on a hit of ether like Hunter S Thompson in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas than spend 5 minutes IRL in a room with starfuel.

BombCat says

starfuel says

non-trans people? kind of wordy

it's better than cis. cis just seems like backlash for you all calling yourselves whatever new words you call yourselves. i think you got sick of those and needed to start calling other people new words to make up for it but i don't want any part of this and i don't want to learn the new words

from Latin cis ‘on this side of’.

Nothing wrong with being transgender, but it would be a shame to have to go through life being starfuel.

transonomists?

are they scientists of the science of gender fluidity

i agree, what are these guys doing with it

cis is a scientific term

starfuel says

non-trans people? kind of wordy

it's better than cis. cis just seems like backlash for you all calling yourselves whatever new words you call yourselves. i think you got sick of those and needed to start calling other people new words to make up for it but i don't want any part of this and i don't want to learn the new words

my favorite transgender figure is the dentist of horror

let me clarify on what pop science means: when did science become a meme?

Satan says

cis and trans are used quite frequently in organic chemistry.


-stops and pushes glasses up-

cis means same side and trans means opposite side.

for example cis-3-hexane has methyl groups on the same side, while trans-3-hexane has methyl groups on opposite sides.


the more you know

i didnt know liberals could create such a ridiculous mixture of social justice and pop science

Red Trump 2K16

starfuel says

i want trans to be a label for myself just as much as u want cis to be a label for urself. that is, not at all.

that's the thing I don't care what you identify as I'll call you whatever you want to be called you can be whatever you want I don't care, the way I was saying cis is used is exactly how you used it to discredit meetery's opinion. Heterosexual vs homosexuality is honestly an apples vs oranges thing to me and a lot of sexuallity has to do with social stigmas obviously people have natural preferences to a sex but if there wasn't as much stigma there'd be a lot more gay/bisexuality going on. saying I'm being ignorant by saying there's a correlation with the negative statistics with trans is the same as calling me sexist or racist when I say there is a difference of athletic and intelligence abilites between races and sexes. Saying trans face enough prejudice to commit suicide over say the blacks in early America or jews in germany doesn't add up to me for it to make sense for there not something else to be going on.

sounds like they need to read some freaking books

do transgendered people not know about that stuff before they go transgendered

if you're put off by statistics about suicide, then look into something like the study done by Make the Road New York called "Transgender Need Not Apply". it was essentially a study in which pairs of job applications were sent with the sole difference being that in one application, the applicant would mention being openly transgender. wanna guess which of the pair got waaaaaaaaaay more job offers? lmao

since u asked for sources, look up "Suicide Attempts among Transgender and Gender Non-Conforming Adults" by Haas, Rodgers, and Herman (it's a PDF so I can't link it). it's a national survey.

in case ur too lazy

suicide attempts for self-identified trans people sit around 44%~, 42% for transwomen and 46% for transmen.

Prevalence of attempts increases to 50% for people who are publicly out as transgender or gender non-conforming and are also elevated for those whom others can tell they are trans without saying so.

for those whose family rejected their identity & chose to shun them from the family, rates rise to 57%. if they were harassed/bullied at school rates went to 50-54%. workplace discrimination; 50-59%. if they were refused treatment from doctors, it went to 60%. if they were the victim of sexual violence at school the rates go as high as 78%. being disrespected or harassed by law enforcement rose rates to 57-61%. those who experienced homelessness, their rates rose to 69%

but yeah, it's totally just cuz trans people are bonkers lol. has nothing to do with the way society treats them...

i want trans to be a label for myself just as much as u want cis to be a label for urself. that is, not at all.

cis and trans are used quite frequently in organic chemistry.


-stops and pushes glasses up-

cis means same side and trans means opposite side.

for example cis-3-hexane has methyl groups on the same side, while trans-3-hexane has methyl groups on opposite sides.


the more you know

flea i like u man but u rly did just set up a strawman tbh. take a look at what u said lmao.

Like, I really do try to be reasonable and see both sides of this sort of argument but getting all hot and bothered over the word "cis" is only really really ridiculous, especially when the same demographic are the people who object when others tell to not to use certain words lol