Bonus: Killing the doc decreases your chancing of winning when you claimed it. When you get the identical situation in 2 out of 3 games of vanilla B2NS, except worse. Which is more useful to the town, lynching hooker Day 1/Day 2 guaranteed or a potential clear?
Answer: Lynching hooker Day 1/Day 2. Miller death townsides the setup.
edit: Point of those quotes was more to emphasize that you have said more than just "it's weird"
Also no miller deaths aren't good for mafia in the dawnstart setup lol
deletedover 9 years
There's only 73 games which means the stats aren't that reflective, especially when you consider it will wind up being, at worst, equal to B2NS percentage wise.
Criticize the original B2NS for being a bad setup all you want but dawnstart is a vast improvement over the original. How you take the reverse stance is beyond my comprehension.
deletedover 9 years
I really, really don't get these.
Re: Giga You had MORE problems with a mafia lynch Day 1 in night start because cop had an extra report. You literally have a better chance in the original B2NS winning as town with a blue death than you do Day 1 in the dawnstart, but have a higher chance of winning as no cop/doctor deaths. No miller deaths also generally good for mafia.
Re: Hibiki you're opposed to cop having no report Day 1 but the value of not having a PR die n1 far outweighs a report which in most games winds up being useless anyway.
Differences between B2NS Dawn and B2NS Night:
Dawn has: -No chance of PR death N1 -No reports/saves N1 -No chance of miller death N1
Everything else is identical. The above factors are 2 positive 1 negative, with the positive outweighing the negative by a significant margin. Keep in mind that the original B2NS was 55/45 mafia anyway, which is a perfectly fine ratio. B2NS dawn removes the n1 roulette and makes it more balanced. How you critique it but not the original B2NS I have no idea.
b2ns dawn start is actually a dumb setup and im surprised it was made and comped
deletedover 9 years
I saw Phillip Wang at a grocery store in California yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn't want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos for anything.
He said, "Oh, like you're doing now?"
I was taken aback, and all I could say was "Huh?" but he kept cutting me off and going "huh? huh? huh?" and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen hot pocket boxes in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like "Sir, you need to pay for those first." At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the boxes and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually "to prevent any electrical infetterence," and then turned around and winked at me. I don't even think that's a word. After she scanned each box and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
Because people can't scumhunt worth a damn and it's making the more town-sided version of a maf-sided setup version even more maf-sided in terms of point payouts.
to the mod who semi-negbombed https://epicmafia.com/setup/862864 to 12, i am sorry for whatever i did to anger the gods. i am nothing but grateful this setup has been un negbombed, and i only hope you will un-renegbomb it
