Aww ty rutab. Your posts have seemed the most sensible to me in this thread so i'm glad you haven't read mine and as such can't think of me as an idiot. :d
So I know I was just complaining about the false dilemma fallacy that is just completely accepted and prominent in U.S. politics, and how Orly is the type of person that falls for that fallacy in general, but scr/ew conservatism. Like, most views that are considered conservative are just so abominable and antiquated.
"No child left behind" is related to the whole "teach to a very low standard in public school and stunt the learning of many kids for the sake of letting everyone pass and making all information taught in schools the same" thing, isn't it? I just explained by way of what probably qualifies as a strawman fallacy why i'm opposed to that one.
Wait, isn't a reformer kind of the antithesis of a Conservative? Like, a Libertarian is, but unless there's some definition of "reformer" that I don't know about...
I don't think idiotic is a proper thing to call a 15 year old, especially in something they shouldn't/usually don't have strong opinions about yet.
I would say, if I wanted to, that Sincerely would be ignorant.
I'm not actually calling you that, Sincerely, because honestly I haven't read your posts, but either way, I don't think idiotic is a good word to use here.
You're SINCERELY misstaken if you think I will write up something that you could google and read about yourself or ask your parents/teacher to explain it to you
Not saying that voting is in and of itself a bad system or that one shouldn't partake in it if they have hope for a certain candidate. I thought I explained that at least once but maybe not.
My point is that the Democratic and Republican parties appear, to me, to be there only for the purpose of fighting each other and spreading propaganda, diluting the publicly accessible information on things like elections and helping keep the vote between 2 primary candidates, neither of which is necessarily any good at all; I'm not even convinced the position of U.S. president is more than a figurehead at this point in time anyway.
I'm not saying I wouldn't vote if I were of voting age. I almost certainly would. If I were of voting age, I'd have researched this more and actually come up with any concrete and substantial evidence I could find for why one candidate was closest to seeming decent. As I am not, I'm just posting here because I feel like it and I'm confident that however stupidly I behave in this thread, my stupidity will be drowned out by the vile trolls singing Trump's praises here and the thoughtless dweebs going along with the "focus every single brain cell you have on slandering the single opposing party, that is 100% evil!" philosophy that seems to be so prevalent.
Edark, feel free to spell it out for me. I'd love to be enlightened if my views are obviously idiotic on this subject.
My point isn't that "oh, the population's so big, individual votes don't count, hurr durr." It's that the U.S. political system is no longer what it sells itself as for what I know about it.
Besides, the democratic and republican parties and idiotic news channels ensure that there are 2 candidates with an actual chance at being elected, and I don't have any faith in those two being much better than they have been.
Kill all political parties and let everyone stand up for what they believe in without the people forcing them/their beliefs into a stupid politically corrupt organization
The paradoxal thing is that an individual vote doesnt really make a huge difference when you look at the big picture, but the more people that actually believes this and dont vote the more each vote actually matters
Not even attempting to see the cause or basis for there BEING two huge sides of an argument whilst maintaining one of them should be proof enough that you're not thinking things through properly or attempting to be objective.
I don't even remember you explaining why republican views were somehow inherently bad and democratic views were not so in any of your posts that I've read. Lol.
If Trump gets elected, I feel like it will be because the voting system is NOT the fair and equal choice it's cracked up to be. I don't see why anyone would assume the average Trump supporter is a bum rather than a millionaire or unethical politician siding with him out of unabashed self-interest. There's no reason for me to look into this because, aside from not being old enough to vote yet and my doubts about the president being a meaningful position anyway, I figure the people with a chance to actually get elected won't be the good one -- and my guess is supported by some of the sentiments I've seen in this thread, too.
You're implying the democratic party (or at least the most vocal and mainstream part of it) is somehow above all this. Both of these parties are not only full of lies and propaganda and unreasonable views, they both make it their life's most important goal to shoot down the other party.
There's a huge combination of views in both. I may not be especially educated on politics in general but I was referring to the election just then because I CBA to look into it and will be UTTERLY SHOCKED if the person elected is any better than, say, Obama was. Obama, the democratic candidate from way back when. Remember that?
While we're flinging excrement at each other, your ridiculously aggressive and condescending demeanor is probably the thing least likely to make anyone want to hear you out on, like, anything. I get the impression you're one of those people that gladly gets stuck to one side of stupid, never-ending, dyadic debates like this and then refuses to give it further contemplation because you think you're intelligent enough that you can't possibly be even partially wrong about anything, ever.
this election blows. hillary is a liar, trump is an and a liar. cruz is a dbag. rubio is the best repub candidate and gets no love. kasich is the most sane. carson is an idiot.
and everyone needs to feel the bern but he aint getting the love he should be.
clearly you didnt grow up through the bush presidency, or you'd know the republicans are braindead in comparison to the dems, which are actually smart liars, albeit them liars all the same.
and yes, voting does make a difference. god, you're stupid.
Clearly disregard and close your eyes for the facts since the one who said them clearly was biased. Cant Stump the Trump, since he wins MOST of his lawsuits.
