although how effective do you think bernie will actually be aside from his proposed policies, do you think he can convince congress to follow suit?

I'm not arguing against the program; I'm arguing for a college system reform that should happen before or simultaneously with his program, which would more closely align the US with other free-college countries. The problem is I haven't seen Bernie make any mention of such a reform.

]My friend, I think you are fundamentally missing my point. Not a single penny of the taxes being used to implement these programs is mine, so why the hell would I care?

I'm all for completely overhauling the American higher education system from every angle, but unless you are making over 300,000 dollars a year or you trade stocks for a living, there is no logical objection to Bernie Sanders economic plans.

This isn't really anything against his plan though. It's more of a shot at our US college system, which has higher graduation rates than most of, if not all of the countries that offer free education.

Kylo says

Fully Paid for by Imposing a Robin Hood Tax on Wall Street. This legislation is offset by
imposing a Wall Street speculation fee on investment houses, hedge funds, and other speculators of
0.5% on stock trades (50 cents for every $100 worth of stock), a 0.1% fee on bonds, and a 0.005%
fee on derivatives. It has been estimated that this provision could raise hundreds of billions a year
which could be used not only to make tuition free at public colleges and universities in this country,
it could also be used to create millions of jobs and rebuild the middle class of this country.

Who exactly is being harmed here? A shady Wallstreet prodigy currently enjoying a blowjob from a french dime who now has to buy a slightly smaller fifth yacht?

didnt one of the socialist european countries try this and it failed miserably to the point that they changed it back. [citation needed] liquidity is pretty f'ing important and people who dont understand the stock market, let alone econ 101 (looking at you bernie) should maybe not throw a wrench into it.

The false assumption here seems to be that the money, when in the hands of the government, still belongs to the people who paid it in taxes. So, who's being harmed? The government, for wasting money on tuition costs of various college programs that won't produce people anymore prepared for particular jobs than the next guy with a less expensive, random other degree. Oh, and the other places that would benefit from that money that was wasted.

Fully Paid for by Imposing a Robin Hood Tax on Wall Street. This legislation is offset by
imposing a Wall Street speculation fee on investment houses, hedge funds, and other speculators of
0.5% on stock trades (50 cents for every $100 worth of stock), a 0.1% fee on bonds, and a 0.005%
fee on derivatives. It has been estimated that this provision could raise hundreds of billions a year
which could be used not only to make tuition free at public colleges and universities in this country,
it could also be used to create millions of jobs and rebuild the middle class of this country.

Who exactly is being harmed here? A shady Wallstreet prodigy currently enjoying a blowjob from a french dime who now has to buy a slightly smaller fifth yacht?

the point, germ, is that the republicans back plans that dont work in the LR for the US economy, and the dems typically do. the repubs are short-sighted and want immediate gains (esp. in their pocket) for/from their corporate backers. the dems are more conniving and a little more backdoor-y. they know how to conceal their bs. the repubs dont, and their morals dont make sense in the modern world.