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Fool Revamp

LastProphet
almost 9 years

Fool should have new skills.

  1. The fool should be able to pass around a fake bomb that when it goes off, does nothing.

  2. The fool should have a pie that he can throw in someones face, which makes gunshots blind fire.

  3. The fool should be allowed to fake getting shot, even if nobody has a gun, but, still shows up as votable and doesn't show up in the graveyard, even though everyone gets a death message.

  4. The fool should be allowed to make a dummy that randomly says annoying things about people and spams, but, can be vote killed or shot.

  5. Every time the fool gets to interact with someone in this way, they get annoyed. If the fool annoys the entire village, the fool instantly wins.

  6. When the fool visits someone at night, they get instantly annoyed with the fool because he kept them up all night.

Anna
almost 9 years
You are a fool
deletedalmost 9 years
Scratch that with my comment warlock, I was under the impression that you HAVE to guess someone, not no one(I've only played with this role 2-3 times ever). Excuse me for not knowing all of it's mechanics.

Now I kinda wish it was in sandbox setup, with the option of no one I wouldn't mind being that role lol
SirAmelio
almost 9 years

Chaika says


SirAmelio says

warlock is actually a pretty okay role unless its a must lynch setup. picking no one will give you points if town nls.


fool is op af as it is so no buff there.

siren def needs something tho.


You make it sound like warlock is ok, but the reality is that he's not that simple due to a variety of factors including virgin claims and whatnot. The fact that warlock is not in the official setup should be evidence enough that what you stated simply isn't enough to make it a viable role.


there are a lot of good roles that arent in the official sandbox setup, as well as a lot of bad roles that are in it, so being or not being in the setup means nothing lol


yes, you are right, there are factors that like you said will make the pick no one strat harder, but from that pov, there are also a lot of variables that will make it easier for warlock, ie lynching orc on maf, lynching innos on carol/dreams, etc

it can also joint with maf or other 3rds and it can usually happen if they make it to lylo/mylo.

its not an easy role to win as, like fool or lyncher and a couple other 3rds are, but it's not that hard either.
Chaika
almost 9 years

SirAmelio says

warlock is actually a pretty okay role unless its a must lynch setup. picking no one will give you points if town nls.


fool is op af as it is so no buff there.

siren def needs something tho.


You make it sound like warlock is ok, but the reality is that he's not that simple due to a variety of factors including virgin claims and whatnot. The fact that warlock is not in the official setup should be evidence enough that what you stated simply isn't enough to make it a viable role.
TheStyleAisle
almost 9 years
make fool auto-voodoo'd with virgin, carol, dream, and turned blue tbh

and pls anarchist is annoying enough i dont need my games doubled with the chance of having a bomba
SirAmelio
almost 9 years
warlock is actually a pretty okay role unless its a must lynch setup. picking no one will give you points if town nls.


fool is op af as it is so no buff there.

siren def needs something tho.
deletedalmost 9 years
I agree with everyone above me regarding fool. It doesn't really need any more skills, because it being able to incriminate itself is a great boon already. Just the knowledge of one being in the game is a major game changer in of itself and makes everyone much more hesitant to lynch, so I'd say the fool's best tool is the element of surprise, which these effects would hinder. Fool might not always have a consistent win, but I don't think a lot of people would agree that it needs improvement.

With that said, it seems like you want to overhaul fool into a different role entirely, with a different win condition to boot, so if we were to evaluate anything in this thread, it'd be this "new" role. What you seem to want is a very disruptive role that isn't actually "harmful" like anarchist is, just annoying, which I think is an awesome concept! We have some pretty obnoxious roles already, but one dedicated to messing around with everyone and not much else would be really fun to play on the giving end. I think it might need some different toys to accomplish this and whatever wincon you give it, but the ones you have seem really interesting in my opinion, especially the pie and the dummy. A third-sided vent seems appealing to me in particular. Just looking at some of these are giving me some inspiration, though since I'm not exactly great at creating roles whether or not that's a good thing is debatable. :D
deletedalmost 9 years
yeah don't mess with Fool. Other 3rds are in desperate need of being fixed.

Warlock is too hard to win with. Needs to be fixed.
Siren is too hard to win with. Needs to be fixed.

Killer is a fair role. I'd even argue that Clockmaker is a role that needs to be fixed, as it's too easy to win as with an extra life.
Chaika
almost 9 years
Fool is already a strong enough role, how about giving one of these tools to someone like warlock making him viable. Like giving him a day action that activates all day actions randomly or something like that.
Golbolco
almost 9 years
The annoyance part is pretty much the same as what the alien does.