deletedalmost 9 years

If a rule put in place by the mods is only abused to try and get people banned/punished that they dislike then the rule is not very good and should be removed completely.

Harassment covers it's own clause and if someone wants to say any words not covered by the censor outside of games then the post should just be removed or then punished if they continue, but moderating HC in games is ridiculous and epicmafia shouldn't be a battleground where mods act as a shield for someone who feels offended about someone using a slur.

you have instances like the report i linked and the example given in this very paragraph where the issue arises. it's honestly ridiculous that 3 offenses of using predetermined slurs can get you the same type of ban that notorious users like ABC who spam on the forums. you can't really make people play nice or even really want to follow your rules and trying to force that where people who are either 1) unaware of the rule 2) don't hold the same social views as you are being banned or violated left and right is not the answer

https://epicmafia.com/report/167730

deletedalmost 9 years
THE BALLER WITH GOGGLES LIKE KAREEM
almost 9 years
Your problem is with the fact that the r-word is considered a slur, not that the actual rule is enforced.
deletedalmost 9 years

Retti says

then you shouldn't care so much about a policy that doesn't work eh


that doesn't logically follow. i, a man who is gay, would care very much about people who use gay slurs.
almost 9 years
The HC rule has been abused for as long as it has been around. No one wants to use the rule as a weapon of fear. Frankly, that's kind of stupid thing for anyone to want or suggest on the internet.
deletedalmost 9 years
then you shouldn't care so much about a policy that doesn't work eh
deletedalmost 9 years

Retti says

use behavior doesn't change if you lack the willpower to actually change it


i don't actually care about changing people, i am just a mod on this site. i am not your psychiatrist.
deletedalmost 9 years
HOPE YOU LIKE THE SOUND OF HELLO I GOT MORE
deletedalmost 9 years
that's why the rule is abused like it is right now, because the community doesn't fear you and trolls you
almost 9 years
What does that even mean
deletedalmost 9 years
People are gonna be nasty and insulting no matter what all you've done is drawn an arbitrary line and you randomly ban people who dance around it
deletedalmost 9 years
use behavior doesn't change if you lack the willpower to actually change it
deletedalmost 9 years

Retti says

i dont think that's proof


sorry, let me go to the epicmafia wiki to give you an article to sway you

HC doesn't exist to change user behavior, it exists to punish it.
deletedalmost 9 years

Slowbro says

"hey please don't act abhorrently or we'll give you a vio that bans you after four"

Retti2m 7s
you're right people will change willingly for my own worldviews and if anyone says the r word they are a bad person


Yeah but it's an issue when people who don't act abhorrently get banned
almost 9 years
it clearly doesnt get rid of them
deletedalmost 9 years
i dont think that's proof
deletedalmost 9 years

Retti says


Slowbro says


Retti says

zero tolerance doesnt work


glad to know that you arbitrarily decided that, as with most of your opinions on anything regarding the site





zero tolerance gets rid of slurs from the site. frankly, i think that means it works.
deletedalmost 9 years
has epicmafia really become a better place because the no tolerance policy has been enabled? the likely answer is no.
deletedalmost 9 years
"hey please don't act abhorrently or we'll give you a vio that bans you after four"

Retti2m 7s
you're right people will change willingly for my own worldviews and if anyone says the r word they are a bad person
deletedalmost 9 years

Slowbro says


Retti says

zero tolerance doesnt work


glad to know that you arbitrarily decided that, as with most of your opinions on anything regarding the site


almost 9 years
Hence why the auto kill yourself vio was abolished.
almost 9 years
Worked for me.
deletedalmost 9 years

Retti says

zero tolerance doesnt work


glad to know that you arbitrarily decided that, as with most of your opinions on anything regarding the site
deletedalmost 9 years
almost 9 years
Zero tolerance never worked
almost 9 years

voluntaryloser says


Togepi says


voluntaryloser says

i wanna say bad words in this thread to make a point but i'm 1 away from a forum ban. could you say bad words for me retti


Transitive property ...


sounds smart


I'm a smart cookie.