Epicmafia

Delete HC

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If a rule put in place by the mods is only abused to try and get people banned/punished that they dislike then the rule is not very good and should be removed completely.

Harassment covers it's own clause and if someone wants to say any words not covered by the censor outside of games then the post should just be removed or then punished if they continue, but moderating HC in games is ridiculous and epicmafia shouldn't be a battleground where mods act as a shield for someone who feels offended about someone using a slur.

you have instances like the report i linked and the example given in this very paragraph where the issue arises. it's honestly ridiculous that 3 offenses of using predetermined slurs can get you the same type of ban that notorious users like ABC who spam on the forums. you can't really make people play nice or even really want to follow your rules and trying to force that where people who are either 1) unaware of the rule 2) don't hold the same social views as you are being banned or violated left and right is not the answer

https://epicmafia.com/report/167730

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death to white trash whetto honkeys

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Slowbro says

you do not get to designate what is and is not offensive to me.

By this logic anyone could complain about any 'trigger' word and it'd be a jumbled into the bad-words-not-to-say list.

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Slowbro says

i'm glad you've never had to hear the word since you were a child, heard it used derogatorily to refer to anyone who acts in a bad way, being told you were one before you ever conceptualized what sexuality was. if i had it my way, frankly no one would have to hear that word. but for now, it's a very awful word that means a really awful thing to me and any time i see or hear it it's like a bucket of hot water to the face. you do not get to designate what is and is not offensive to me.

ok sorry let's talk about the context of HC

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Togepi says

F you Bigpock

You know what I want you to do to me

Chaika

almost 9 years

epicmafia isn't as epic as it once was.

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hm well i think there's an objective problem when all HC reports boil down to revenge and just trying to get someone a violation, barring the odd exception that is almost never because surprisingly enough people, including tumblr users, are very spiteful

Mana

almost 9 years

Rend says

Every time someone bunches up my panties, I report them. God it feels so good. It's like being a judge and jury all by myself. I hold all of the power in my hands. As soon as you say a slur, I have you by the balls. If I like you, no big deal, whatever. Better not make me mad after you said a slur though, because I will end you right then and there. Don't aim a single unpleasant word in my direction, because the epicmafia report system is MY weapon, and I'm not afraid to use it.

same

Togepi

almost 9 years

F you Bigpock

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I hate all moderators.

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i'm glad you've never had to hear the word since you were a child, heard it used derogatorily to refer to anyone who acts in a bad way, being told you were one before you ever conceptualized what sexuality was. if i had it my way, frankly no one would have to hear that word. but for now, it's a very awful word that means a really awful thing to me and any time i see or hear it it's like a bucket of hot water to the face. you do not get to designate what is and is not offensive to me.

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Harunan says

harodihg says

There should be some new addend that makes it so if you report someone you can't join games or post in the same threads as that person for a time period since they're so vile why would you want to be in their presence anyway I mean lolz

Honestly this isn't that half bad of an idea shrug

I mean, I was being sarcastic but in all actuality people would probably stop reporting people unless something said was actually that offensive or *gasp* hateful

plus it'd be hilarious if you the person could join a game with the reporter and it would auto kick them to enforce the ruling lmao

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Rend says

Every time someone bunches up my panties, I report them. God it feels so good. It's like being a judge and jury all by myself. I hold all of the power in my hands. As soon as you say a slur, I have you by the balls. If I like you, no big deal, whatever. Better not make me mad after you said a slur though, because I will end you right then and there. Don't aim a single unpleasant word in my direction, because the epicmafia report system is MY weapon, and I'm not afraid to use it.

lmao

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harodihg says

There should be some new addend that makes it so if you report someone you can't join games or post in the same threads as that person for a time period since they're so vile why would you want to be in their presence anyway I mean lolz

Honestly this isn't that half bad of an idea shrug

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Every time someone bunches up my panties, I report them. God it feels so good. It's like being a judge and jury all by myself. I hold all of the power in my hands. As soon as you say a slur, I have you by the balls. If I like you, no big deal, whatever. Better not make me mad after you said a slur though, because I will end you right then and there. Don't aim a single unpleasant word in my direction, because the epicmafia report system is MY weapon, and I'm not afraid to use it.

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gays like soft animals -> soft animals are on animal planet -> animal planet is on cable tv -> cable tv is turning our youth gay

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if i delete my posts fast enough you can't give me a vio. i found the loophole

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Retti says

Slowbro says

Retti says

then dont use your sexuality as an excuse as to why you want to keep zero tolerance

i guess since john has a different opinion than i, i'm not allowed to use my own life experiences with homophobia. thanks for letting me know, cis white straight man.

its not relevant to the argument

you're the one who brought up "internet strangers" bothering me

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Slowbro says

Retti says

then dont use your sexuality as an excuse as to why you want to keep zero tolerance

i guess since john has a different opinion than i, i'm not allowed to use my own life experiences with homophobia. thanks for letting me know, cis white straight man.

its not relevant to the argument

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gays don't have feelings

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There should be some new addend that makes it so if you report someone you can't join games or post in the same threads as that person for a time period since they're so vile why would you want to be in their presence anyway I mean lolz

Togepi

almost 9 years

You can't also dismiss Slow using his sexuality as his reasoning for being in support of zero tolerance by trying to devalue his sexuality by bringing up self-deprecating gays. Like what is wrong with you people.

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Retti says

then dont use your sexuality as an excuse as to why you want to keep zero tolerance

i guess since john has a different opinion than i, i'm not allowed to use my own life experiences with homophobia. thanks for letting me know, cis white straight man.

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There's a couple of issues in the theory of removing the Hateful Comments rule.

One:
Cases in which sexual abuse is used as a joke (the "r word," the one that isn't a slur), ie: "I got r_____'d by that person in that game." If the person isn't in the game, it's not harassment, and if a user is troubled by bringing up that kind of language, it's not harassment as it's not directed towards them. The answer here would be to leave HC, or reinstate the moderation of IC in games (something for the longest time I've found stupid).

Two:
Slang in general towards an entire group/race/religion of people. Since nobody in particular is named, it does not count as harassment.

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then dont use your sexuality as an excuse as to why you want to keep zero tolerance

Togepi

almost 9 years

So why the hell are we using the argument of "HC is just for revenge!!" when that's what all of the rules are for? Good grief.