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heartbrand
almost 9 years

I haven't played Mafia in a long, long, time. I came back after playing the card game with family a few weeks ago because I forgot how much I enjoy it. Having said that, I'm still learning the "meta" if you will for some of the setups that seem popular, outside of the standard cop/doc/3 town/2 mafia.

I played the setup with Sheriff on a day start, and claimed Sheriff as town hoping it would draw attention to me from maf. Apparently, this is "incorrect" I guess from the way you're supposed to play. I didn't know this, and I didn't realize how harsh people here are about playing only one way or what not without any deviation. Suffice it to say, I certainly didn't think it was "game throwing."

Needless to say, I got reported for this because some of the community would rather just report instantly and throw curse words at you rather than help educate and mentor and explain why perhaps there's a better way or what is wrong with the strategy you employed.

I appealed the ban, which seemed a bit over the top to me, it's just a game, and I thought something like game throwing implies the crazy trolls who out their mafia partners and things of that nature. The mod slowbro responded as follows:

"Save the "pitiful noob" act for someone else. This is your third instance of GTing and you'd already be lobby banned if mindful hadn't been lenient on you."

Several issues with this. First of all I don't know where he gets "third" instance. I got reported for not killing the cop I guess when I should have used telepathy to know who it was? Again, I'm still new from a very long break of several years, I thought we were in an auto loss position, and didn't realize somehow that's game throwing. But beyond that, is that really how mods speak to people? "pitifil noob" act? Are we all 15 years old here? I'm 31 with 3 kids. Can't we be respectful and talk to each other like adults? How does a community expect to grow and foster a warm environment when everyone reports instantly and mods are more than happy to respond with instant bans for "game throwing?" Would it really hurt to help take people under your wing and provide suggestions, advice, etc.? Not everyone who plays sub-optimal is trying to troll games and game throw.

In the grand scheme of things, I can just make another account, I have multiple IP's etc. But it's not about that. It bothers me that this would be considered an acceptable response to people on a game that should be about respectful fun. This is a family game, at least that's how I grew up understanding it.

I'm very disappointed by what I see as a lack of professionalism, particularly during the holiday season. Let's try to be a bit nicer to each other and a bit more understanding of those who want to be a part of this community.

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UniversalStudios
almost 9 years

heartbrand says

You're bringing down the value of this community with your rhetoric.


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heartbrand is right. bad play shouldnt be punished in training. demod slow
heartbrand
almost 9 years
I already explained what I thought was good logic at the time. I assumed the Mafia would target Sheriff, so by claiming Sheriff while being blue, I would keep the Sheriff safe. I did not know the meta, with claiming and then blacksmith vesting, etc. I do not dispute that upon review my play was not the standard meta. However, I do dispute I intentionally tried to "throw" the game. I truly believed that I was helping town by protecting the Sheriff, and that once I claimed Sheriff, despite it being perhaps not the best move, I had to stick to it at that point.

I also don't understand your post, are you saying you're going to resuspend me now?
Tisguyisawesome
almost 9 years
Having lots of reports filed against you indicates you are a good mafia player.
Hunt
almost 9 years
That's not proper or improper meta. You are arguing that you should be allowed to throw the game for no reason. Now I will talk to you and explain you in your own language.

First explain why you claimed sheriff. What was your motive. How would it help you achieve that motive by claiming sheriff. Until you explain this you will be banned again.
Devante
almost 9 years
Who unbanned this it's clearly a banned user / gt alt lol
heartbrand
almost 9 years
Are you 17 years old? You have over 70 reports, many of which are for harassment, foul language, creeping people, and cheating. You know nothing about me. You're bringing down the value of this community with your rhetoric.
UniversalStudios
almost 9 years
You do realize that's not an argument, right? You literally ensure that your team has a bad outcome and calling it "unconventional" is just you being a douchelord. The problem is that you're talking to people that have dealt with douchelords like yourself FOR YEARS. Since you're too slow to realize this I think I'll just spam screenshots of your losses since it's easy to see that you're responsible for them.
heartbrand
almost 9 years

Hunt says

Why are we even entertaining this guy. He is literally saying that he should be allowed to troll the way he is trolling.


https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=&reported=hunt

and yet you have more reports than me.

I have seen games in the week or so I've been back of people telling each other they're "' " this" that, people vegging out intentionally, people outting their mafia partners because they're mad, people lynching people due to prior games, etc., etc., but yet you're saying I'm an "intentional troll" because I didn't supposedly play the proper meta with Sheriff? Thanks for the input.
UniversalStudios
almost 9 years

UniversalStudios says


voluntaryloser says

heartbrand why did you claim hooker in our night chat so that the lawyer didn't know who to be on




Hunt
almost 9 years
Why are we even entertaining this guy. He is literally saying that he should be allowed to troll the way he is trolling.
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Germatron says


heartbrand says

When a mod's response is "shut up", I question their temperament. Having said that, I'm back to playing, made a post in mentor forums, and am trying harder than ever to read the strategies in every setup and be aware of what's going on. Just a shame that some would rather be deeply negative, including those who I guess are responsible for keeping this site a fun place to play.


dont worry. slowbro is widely regarded as a bad mod


repost this if you want to demod slowbro
heartbrand
almost 9 years
I don't really need it to be overturned, I'm actively playing as we speak. I just felt that what I did wasn't game throwing with the sheriff, that was my 1st I believe game using that setup since I came back from a 4+ year hiatus. To me, game throwing means actively trying to destroy the game. I get that this is a very competitive site for people, and in retrospect perhaps it's my mistake jumping into a setup I was unfamiliar with. But I am being sincere in saying I really didn't think that trying to claim sherriff to take heat off that role was game throwing, and I really didn't think the guy was going to shoot, in fact I really didn't even think he was being serious.

My bigger issue was really just the lack of professionalism by the mod. While I disagree with you, Tatami, I respect your tone and rhetoric, and had it been put that way to me to begin with, I would have no issue.

Thanks.
Sonrio
almost 9 years
whoever decided to mod tatami gave this site a blessing and a curse
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heartbrand says

I didn't think he would actually shoot me because it didn't seem to make sense. Many others in the game seemed to agree with me. I was trying my hardest to pretend to be Sheriff, so suddenly retracting at that point wouldn't be staying in character.


I find it very, very hard to believe that you thought saying "do what you need to do" in response to "Retract or I'm shooting you" would result in something other than you being shot. This one is unlikely to be overturned ever.


heartbrand says

When I used the quotations in the appeal I wasn't implying I didn't actually know what the term bussed meant btw, just that I didn't really recognize that we were going to be doing that, as I am still new having come back, and that I believe was one of my first games back. As far as the other comments about a doc save or what not, my memory is not great on that, but I had no idea about this thing where I guess doctors aren't always doctors on this site at the time.


This one is fair and I'd honestly rule it no vio/note (Though the inconsistency with the bussing is still not fully resolved it's sufficient and mostly unrelated to the report)
heartbrand
almost 9 years
I didn't think he would actually shoot me because it didn't seem to make sense. Many others in the game seemed to agree with me. I was trying my hardest to pretend to be Sheriff, so suddenly retracting at that point wouldn't be staying in character.

When I used the quotations in the appeal I wasn't implying I didn't actually know what the term bussed meant btw, just that I didn't really recognize that we were going to be doing that, as I am still new having come back, and that I believe was one of my first games back. As far as the other comments about a doc save or what not, my memory is not great on that, but I had no idea about this thing where I guess doctors aren't always doctors on this site at the time.
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no need to get racist giga
Giga13
almost 9 years

voluntaryloser says

it's crazy how if you write enough words people like vilden will think you're right


tell that to the american people
Giga13
almost 9 years
I agree, gt alts should be able to roam free like wild cattle on the manure fields that are epicmafia
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voluntaryloser says

it's crazy how if you write enough words people like vilden will think you're right


Have no fear, Voluntary, for I am here, armed with my walls of text, to instill balance in this world.
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it's crazy how if you write enough words people like vilden will think you're right
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heartbrand says

When a mod's response is "shut up", I question their temperament. Having said that, I'm back to playing, made a post in mentor forums, and am trying harder than ever to read the strategies in every setup and be aware of what's going on. Just a shame that some would rather be deeply negative, including those who I guess are responsible for keeping this site a fun place to play.


why did you lie about your role to your mafia teammates
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Keeping in mind that I would have voted no vio on the report for not killing cop, had you not posted anything else, now I am a bit skeptical. I lean heavily on giving benefit of the doubt but there's some things for me that make that difficult. There are a lot of inconsistencies here.

Here's the first. In this report: https://epicmafia.com/report/165218 You say clearly how you didn't expect him to shoot and how he shouldn't have shot, and how you weren't trying to throw. That's extremely strange given your statements in game:



Telling him to "do what he needs to do" and shoot you instead of retracting when you realized he was actually going to do it. Odd.

The second is your changing story on the report, and lying at least once.

https://epicmafia.com/report/165315

In this appeal, you claim to not know what "bussing" is, or understand how it works. However, the first one to bring up the bus is yourself in the postgame.



Very strange that you appear to have forgotten so quickly.

The least strange part of this is the inconsistency with what happened in the game. You claimed in the postgame to have not killed the claimed, confirmed cop out of fear of a docsave (not realizing it was a multi). You now claim to not know who it was entirely, but this is honestly easily attributable to bad memory.

This is just a very strange thread and string of appeals all around.
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heartbrand says

When a mod's response is "shut up", I question their temperament. Having said that, I'm back to playing, made a post in mentor forums, and am trying harder than ever to read the strategies in every setup and be aware of what's going on. Just a shame that some would rather be deeply negative, including those who I guess are responsible for keeping this site a fun place to play.


dont worry. slowbro is widely regarded as a bad mod
johnreid
almost 9 years

DrakeJr says


johnreid says

Totally agree with the op, and the fact you don't even get a serious response is unbelievable.


didn't you say you were quitting forever or something? lol


I guess someone still wants me around since they got my account restored.