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heartbrand
almost 9 years

I haven't played Mafia in a long, long, time. I came back after playing the card game with family a few weeks ago because I forgot how much I enjoy it. Having said that, I'm still learning the "meta" if you will for some of the setups that seem popular, outside of the standard cop/doc/3 town/2 mafia.

I played the setup with Sheriff on a day start, and claimed Sheriff as town hoping it would draw attention to me from maf. Apparently, this is "incorrect" I guess from the way you're supposed to play. I didn't know this, and I didn't realize how harsh people here are about playing only one way or what not without any deviation. Suffice it to say, I certainly didn't think it was "game throwing."

Needless to say, I got reported for this because some of the community would rather just report instantly and throw curse words at you rather than help educate and mentor and explain why perhaps there's a better way or what is wrong with the strategy you employed.

I appealed the ban, which seemed a bit over the top to me, it's just a game, and I thought something like game throwing implies the crazy trolls who out their mafia partners and things of that nature. The mod slowbro responded as follows:

"Save the "pitiful noob" act for someone else. This is your third instance of GTing and you'd already be lobby banned if mindful hadn't been lenient on you."

Several issues with this. First of all I don't know where he gets "third" instance. I got reported for not killing the cop I guess when I should have used telepathy to know who it was? Again, I'm still new from a very long break of several years, I thought we were in an auto loss position, and didn't realize somehow that's game throwing. But beyond that, is that really how mods speak to people? "pitifil noob" act? Are we all 15 years old here? I'm 31 with 3 kids. Can't we be respectful and talk to each other like adults? How does a community expect to grow and foster a warm environment when everyone reports instantly and mods are more than happy to respond with instant bans for "game throwing?" Would it really hurt to help take people under your wing and provide suggestions, advice, etc.? Not everyone who plays sub-optimal is trying to troll games and game throw.

In the grand scheme of things, I can just make another account, I have multiple IP's etc. But it's not about that. It bothers me that this would be considered an acceptable response to people on a game that should be about respectful fun. This is a family game, at least that's how I grew up understanding it.

I'm very disappointed by what I see as a lack of professionalism, particularly during the holiday season. Let's try to be a bit nicer to each other and a bit more understanding of those who want to be a part of this community.

  • Josh
UniversalStudios
almost 9 years

Tatami says

I remember people calling me obviously a banned user, too.


For the life of me I don't remember playing thousands of points worth of games on this account after being deleted, but things happen.
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Sims says

that still holds up


Prove it, if you can.
Sims
almost 9 years
that still holds up
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I remember people calling me obviously a banned user, too.
Devante
almost 9 years
remember when the op was clearly a banned user lol


i remember
UniversalStudios
almost 9 years

Stop lying about being new.
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heartbrand, stay strong. dont give in to their bullying tactics
heartbrand
almost 9 years
It's all good. I'm asking more questions in games when uncertain, reading the strategy always etc. Was really just a point to be nicer.

Good luck all, see you in the Town :)
heartbrand
almost 9 years
You're not irritating me at all, if anything you're proving my point that some people seem more content crapping on newbs rather than helping.
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panthero says

The solution to trolls is to irritate them in their own game. I will show this idiot what trolling actually is.


Well, Heart, my advice as a player and not a moderator would be to stop responding now that you see the intent.
UniversalStudios
almost 9 years

panthero says

The solution to trolls is to irritate them in their own game. I will show this idiot what trolling actually is.


Congrats that's the first and only post I'll delete this year.
UniversalStudios
almost 9 years
He doesn't have a violation yet
panthero
almost 9 years
The solution to trolls is to irritate them in their own game. I will show this idiot what trolling actually is.
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You guys should honestly consider stepping away from the keyboard rather than hammering in something we've already gone over 5 times.
panthero
almost 9 years
The guy warned you that he would shoot if you didn't retract. And you asked him to shoot you.
heartbrand
almost 9 years
I really didn't think the guy was going to shoot me, to be honest, the way he was talking, I didn't even think he was Sheriff. I don't even know in retrospect. Again, my issue here is less with the "violation", and more so the concept that we should rush to suspend or ban people for "game throwing" who man genuinely just not know what the eff they are doing, which was 100% the case with me in that setup which I had never played before, or at least never recalled playing since returning. I get that many people are seasoned veterans and the game is almost a boring math equation over and over, but not all of us are familiar with every role / setup, etc. Reaching out to us and explaining in a friendly manner why perhaps something isn't a good play, or perhaps why killing the cop even if you think there's a doctor at the end, the mistake I made, is bad, etc., is a lot more helpful than simply reporting someone and getting them suspended ban. Anyone can just make a new account if they are banned. Wouldn't it be a lot more beneficial instead to help the person behind the PC become better at the game? That's why I was so taken aback by this mod's response. Clearly I had no clue what I was doing, why not simply give some words of encouragement or advice? I guess because it's the internet and we can all be anonymous to each other.
sl0nderman
almost 9 years
main lobby was a mistake, bring back training and comp
panthero
almost 9 years
But explain how you getting shot at the expense of the off chance that mafia would have taken you for a complete tool and hit you instead of the obvious sheriff, was beneficial for your alignment.


Why did he not get the vio?
heartbrand
almost 9 years
I don't think you're understanding. It has nothing to do with the violation really. I understand why it was reported upon reading up on strategy, though I still disagree about calling it "game throwing". My complaint was two fold.

1) The urge of people to report everything rather than help people get better at the game. Not everyone is here to ruin your games. Some people are genuinely new to different setups, the game in general, etc. I just played a few minutes ago with someone who didn't know what "isp" meant, and made some questionable moves. I didn't rush to report the guy.

2) The strange demeanor with which you responded to my appeal, which seems out of line for someone who represents this site to the community, and to any prospect who may come here. It should be an open and warm place so it can grow and continue to become a bigger game that more and more people can enjoy.
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i think my favorite part about this entire thread is that i didn't even give the vio
UniversalStudios
almost 9 years

heartbrand says

My issue with this thread has simply been the demeanor with which you responded, which seems a bit strange for a moderator.


I think this douchelord is serious. If not I've been trolled.
heartbrand
almost 9 years
and? I said before, I thought this was a smart play. I was not familiar with the meta. My issue with this thread has simply been the demeanor with which you responded, which seems a bit strange for a moderator. I would think people would rather be interested in help nurturing players to make them better @ the game. The suspension itself was not really my issue, it was 24 hours, it's over, I've played a dozen games since this thread was made. It was simply an observation that speaking to people in that manner is inappropriate, particularly for someone who wields power.
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UniversalStudios
almost 9 years
Also what's your excuse for being able to go through people's reports but not being able to read setup descriptions OR WAIT FOR PEOPLE IN GAME TO TELL WHICH ROLE TO DO WHAT WHICH HAPPENS IN EVERY SETUP YOU'VE EVER PLAYED ON THIS SITE.
UniversalStudios
almost 9 years
Fortunately for you the games on your page are broken and I didn't screenshot them earlier. Also seeing as out of 70 violation this account has had >7 violations your point is irrelevant.