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deletedabout 9 years

anyone wanna tell me why flex has seemingly played 10 comp games but only 9 appear? anyone wanna tell me why her most recent loss appears as "Cannot find game..." anyone wanna tell me why this low user ID alt https://epicmafia.com/user/1211#/ pops out of nowhere (over 58 months) to play a few comp games with flex?

who remembers our buddy Omar Little https://epicmafia.com/user/18723#/ who came out of a 63 month hiatus to throw a few games for none other than our friend fix, who i'm pretty sure is flex. notice the similarities? low user ID account pops up out of nowhere and plays a few games with the suspect. then, they disappear. poof. i distinctly remember accusing fix of cheating with this person and a few other accounts. strangely enough, that thread was deleted. weird.

none of this crap is new or revolutionary. ABC and vilden have been driving this stuff down the mods' throats for the past few weeks and sims refused to take action. i'm hoping jeff and togepi will take this a bit more seriously, because you're successfully letting poser/prevail/arcbell make a complete mockery of competitive mafia. they're able to delete games, force sui [https://epicmafia.com/report/158129] and cheat at will. why aren't the mods taking action?

deletedabout 9 years
John you think we dont know about the duffs gting alts. Now im not going to make a investigation write up because idc that much but trust me we all know.

I guarantee if you played anondeck setups you wouldnt be good at all. You get treated differently as a runner by the DOUCHES and weak but website aware users.
deletedabout 9 years
we'll see.
poser
about 9 years
i guess you could say im a master debater
poser
about 9 years
i don't have to bait you, i already won
deletedabout 9 years
nice bait attempt lmfao
poser
about 9 years
you grs'd dude
deletedabout 9 years
i wish i could explain more things in detail but the report system is basically being exploited to give me harassment violations so i don't even know how much i can say
deletedabout 9 years
what other things are far-fetched
Miki
about 9 years
it's not far-fetched at all to link old users coming back to play in x's games at all. it's hilarious so many are quick to dismiss it because they're friends with her despite the fact that if it were another user, they'd be jumping down their throat. she's had old alts before her time farm with her. it's also a trait that has previously cropped up with prevails cheating cases.

im also inclined to kinda believe the sui thing. either someone was on your account, or poser has a script and was in both games provided in op/reports.

everything else tho??????
Miki
about 9 years

Loreli says

Prevail doesn't cheat anymore. (That I know of, and I'm reasonably good at catching cheaters.)


lmfao
krystal
about 9 years
TBH just ignore him you know you didn't cheat, and if anyone bothers to go through your games they know you did not cheat lmao just ignore known troll.
Literally your lose streaks were with DUFF players, he is just trying to make you less happy about the silver you damn well deserve!
He also likes Kpop to much his validity must be diminished.
johnreid
about 9 years

Bigpock says

While you losers may not be role sharing, you def. just let each other take over the game and not fos who ever is running

Essentially, who ever is running doesn't ever get fos'd or pushed on so that you have a better chance of winning as town, and autowin as maf.

It's cool, winning a trophy means nothing in 2015



My winning percentage vs DUFFS last round was worse than my overall win percentage. Basically what you are saying is bullsh1t
rvpp
about 9 years
abe started using hashtags ahahahaha
ling
about 9 years
abe dude you're the biggest nerd we know
Orly
about 9 years

Loreli says

Friends actually tend to lose more games that they play with friends than they lose games that they play with randoms. #Themoreyouknow


Show me the stats, buddy.

And the best amusement is always a learning experience.

Last but not least, what's wrong with being a nerd? Scared of admitting what you are?
Loreli
about 9 years
I tend to not play anything for idle amusement, and I am reasonably proud of my Epicmafia achievements. Will I laud them anywhere other than EM? No, because I'm not a freaking nerd.

Friends actually tend to lose more games that they play with friends than they lose games that they play with randoms. #Themoreyouknow
Sims
about 9 years

Orly says


Loreli says


Also nice to see Vash is still paranoid about the competitive scene.



the fact of the matter is that casual cheating occurs consistently on this site, whether intentional or not, and the ultimate reality is that the comp scene is a joke.

there's no paranoia there; you're just inflating a pointless contest to a sense of legitimacy that simply doesn't exist and never actually will. there was a pretense of it at some point in the distant past of EM, but even then the reality of comp was friends playing for friends to win.

to go further, lucid's original intent for the site was never to create a competition out of the party game of mafia. that became a consequence of the elitist attitude that more consistently skilled players eventually developed and pushed for, as an afterthought to their shared ability to jerk each other off in games.

that's not to say that skill doesnt play a vital part in deciding comp rounds. in many cases, it does, but the ultimate truth is that EM competition is in no way a laudable achievement in the real world, or in any real competitive scene, with actual trophies/rewards. the reason is, of course, partly the format, but mostly a level of unwillingness on the part of the community itself to step away from a heavily meta-biased format of the mafia game. had there been any push for a revamped form of the comp scene when lucid was more active, rest assured, we would have something more legit at this point.

in fact, you might as well say survivor lobby had the most legitimate competition on the site. at least it never tried to deceive itself about how games were decided


same
Orly
about 9 years
also i reserve the right to laugh at and subtly defame every single one of you idiots who actually think their efforts at winning EM rounds amounts to anything, let alone you enjoying the site more than i do. because if there's one thing i can assure you, it's that all of your huffing and puffing for taking epicmafia java games seriously doesn't come close in terms of enjoyment to the genuine humor and amusement i get out of simply playing my games.
Orly
about 9 years

Loreli says


Also nice to see Vash is still paranoid about the competitive scene.



the fact of the matter is that casual cheating occurs consistently on this site, whether intentional or not, and the ultimate reality is that the comp scene is a joke.

there's no paranoia there; you're just inflating a pointless contest to a sense of legitimacy that simply doesn't exist and never actually will. there was a pretense of it at some point in the distant past of EM, but even then the reality of comp was friends playing for friends to win.

to go further, lucid's original intent for the site was never to create a competition out of the party game of mafia. that became a consequence of the elitist attitude that more consistently skilled players eventually developed and pushed for, as an afterthought to their shared ability to jerk each other off in games.

that's not to say that skill doesnt play a vital part in deciding comp rounds. in many cases, it does, but the ultimate truth is that EM competition is in no way a laudable achievement in the real world, or in any real competitive scene, with actual trophies/rewards. the reason is, of course, partly the format, but mostly a level of unwillingness on the part of the community itself to step away from a heavily meta-biased format of the mafia game. had there been any push for a revamped form of the comp scene when lucid was more active, rest assured, we would have something more legit at this point.

in fact, you might as well say survivor lobby had the most legitimate competition on the site. at least it never tried to deceive itself about how games were decided
Loreli
about 9 years

Bigpock says

While you losers may not be role sharing, you def. just let each other take over the game and not fos who ever is running

Essentially, who ever is running doesn't ever get fos'd or pushed on so that you have a better chance of winning as town, and autowin as maf.

It's cool, winning a trophy means nothing in 2015



I (and I'm reasonably sure Flex as well) caused losses for Poser during vital points of their run due to directly opposing them.

@Sachy Yeah I originally wrote 220k but I loosened my range after thinking about it for a bit.
deletedabout 9 years
Winning a trophy meant something ever? ;D

It was 220554
deletedabout 9 years
While you losers may not be role sharing, you def. just let each other take over the game and not fos who ever is running

Essentially, who ever is running doesn't ever get fos'd or pushed on so that you have a better chance of winning as town, and autowin as maf.

It's cool, winning a trophy means nothing in 2015
deletedabout 9 years

DrakeJr says


johnreid says

If I was cheating I would have thrown against poser in her final games and secured gold.


this post is sorta like when OJ Simpson made that book "If I Did Do It"


on point
Loreli
about 9 years
Prevail doesn't cheat anymore. (That I know of, and I'm reasonably good at catching cheaters.)

ABC is barely human and using him as an evidence source proves you haven't been on the site long enough - that or never modded.

If you genuinely want the mods to take action against poser/prevail and genuinely think they're cheating then make a game by game analysis, slandering without evidence is literally defaming and only serves to maintain a stigmata. It has a 0% chance to actually do anything except either discredit yourself or besmirch their reputation. It's also petty.

Also nice to see Vash is still paranoid about the competitive scene.

Slight clarification: xElf was 180-220k not 120k.
Orly
about 9 years
that being said, prevail is the worst kind of cheater and is about as pathetic as they come