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Grim's Paradox

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It's not supposed to be BV, it's supposed to be something fun and new. It probably does lean towards town, but I doubt it leans that way more than 5%
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Grim says

I don't think it's more than 5% townsided, although it probably does lean towards town


a) yes it will be
b) 5% itself is too much
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it's more townsided than cno/cns and wwtw that's for sure

i agree that fj2 and wwtw are pretty bad though
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I don't think it's more than 5% townsided, although it probably does lean towards town
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Felons says

if you keep the setup how it currently is it's going to be a bad setup and a town pointfarm.


It's definitely not worse than FJ2, Cry N Spy, or WWTW. It's not supposed to be the next BV
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it's town sided as balls is the point i'm making, stupid
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if you keep the setup how it currently is it's going to be a bad setup and a town pointfarm.
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If you lynch mafia day one in STBS and you don't suck you tend to win about 80% of the time
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Yeah, if mafia gets lynched day one mafia's odds are lowered significantly. What's your point?
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if hooker is lynched day 1, high chance of town autowin
if don is lynched day 1, there's still a pretty significant chance of town autowin
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That's like saying "If you lynch wrong twice its basically game over"
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Strider says

if don OTs to hooker it's basically game over


1. That's a choice Don would make. Don isn't obligated to OT

2. While OTing to hooker is the worst possible thing that can happen to mafia, it does not by any means end the game.
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if don OTs to hooker it's basically game over
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Strider says

dawn start is fundamentally better even if you like mafia not knowing each other


I disagree, and think dawn start would scum side it.
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If don OTs to hooker off of a blue and then hits detective and survives one lynch, its still 3 way 1 clear.
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dawn start is fundamentally better even if you like mafia not knowing each other
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Felons says

mafia not knowing each other in a setup with 2 mafia and day start is pretty stupid and unfair to mafia, it's like you're trying your hardest to make a town pointfarm.


Except it's really not! Don determines which town is lynched if at all, and there's a hooker!
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mafia not knowing each other in a setup with 2 mafia and day start is pretty stupid and unfair to mafia, it's like you're trying your hardest to make a town pointfarm.
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Top setup tier
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Giga13 says

You didn't try dawnstart


I really like mafia not knowing each other. OTing creates a clear and you might hit your partner, but if you have a strong PR read the temptation might be too much
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You didn't try dawnstart
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50/50 after 4 games definitely 100% balanced comp it
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ehhhh ok
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Orly says

im not sure i understand what Don's role descrip says. it cant OT if the lynch is on mafia? so then all it does is OT onto other towns if town is being lynched? isnt that like, creating a clear?


Yeah, therein lies the risk
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im not sure i understand what Don's role descrip says. it cant OT if the lynch is on mafia? so then all it does is OT onto other towns if town is being lynched? isnt that like, creating a clear?