effulgence is literal statistics showing it. u roll mafia less than u do town, all it took for them to get good mafia stats too was appropriate night-killing - reducing the stack
Well of course it depends on who you're playing with and the situation of the game and a bunch of other factors but you can out towntell a townie in a stacked table. Obviously you can or else mafia would never win stacked tables. Mafia win stacked tables, therefore it's possible and it can be done. There's no statistics suggesting it's harder to win as mafia in a stacked table if you're as stacked as the rest of the lineup off of that fact alone
deletedover 9 years
all u have to do to win as mafia is kill around townie tunnels and omguses and let them self-destruct. literally. as town u have to assuage all that, read the game, push the town a certain way, etc., etc.
remember to always care about winrates that mean nothing over stacking tables in mafia
deletedover 9 years
if you try to stack tables in mafia now, you probably care too much and need to channel that caring into apathy posting
deletedover 9 years
that's because ur not stacking games hard, dave. everyone's is, or should be. it's by far less work/less required attention to win as scum than as town. unless the attention of good players is multiplied, that is.
deletedover 9 years
same, on any decently long account it usually evens out because it's difficult to tryhard caremad every game as town esp. when you get bad towns, but mafia it's way easier to halfass and unintentionally win
my scum winrate is always higher than my town winrate tho
deletedover 9 years
i've cheated every time i won a trophy
deletedover 9 years
effulgence 70% town winrate, 65% maf winrate. there's something going on there
gotta give it to extra for the 74% maf winrate tho
deletedover 9 years
wrong. being really good at being mafia doesn't mean perfectly scripting a town game, it mostly means working off the right things/plying the right things. the former is even mostly just impossible in fact. ur never out-towntelling an actual townie to someone who has a clue what's going on. that's what the stacked game situation comes down to
i mean even there dave won 68% of games he was aligned with kerry for, but only 61% he was against her
deletedover 9 years
the (sound) reasoning behind that rule is that it's easier to be town than mafia in a stacked game, giga. the one good player that will land mafia out of three or four good players joining a game is going to have no chance of fooling the others, and all his actions besides are going to have to be fabricated where theirs are natural too
I never play stacked tables when I run fyi, it's a preference and at the end of the day as long as you win 2/3 of your games you'll get it done almost always
'Stacked table = more likely town win' only holds true if there are a few players who aren't as good as the other ones because in a fully loaded table the scumteam is stacked too.
deletedover 9 years
i'm aware of that. i'm talking about gauging how much the probability of them winning increases when they both flip town.
but the odds aren't that much higher that they're both flipping town either, so maybe we'd want to go adding even more players and awakening soben's old rule of 'stacked game = town win'
