lmfao. i can't even deal with this anymore. you know what this sounds like?
craycray: "giving your life to god may be painful at first, but it'll all be worth it once we reunite with jesus christ"
misc. islamic suicide bomber gives his life to his god, and its painful at first (blowing up), but it will be worth it once he goes to paradise or whatever they believe in (don't care).
edit: it also sounds like something some cult would say to a new recruit.
Thanks. I believe that this is more than a -phase-, primarily because the amount of doubt that I have is far more than a majority of people that I know. We'll see how everything goes, I suppose.
@Matt I'm glad you have those phases at times. It's totally normal(: Giving your life to God may be painful at first, but it'll all be worth it once we reunite with Jesus Christ!
@Pessimist exactly my point... I personally love science (sometimes), but they can't explain everything. You say that you're still unsure of how the world was created. Science brings about so many theories, and it's pretty hard to keep up with it. And He rewards and punishes people through other people. Have you ever seen those videos where they restore FAITH in the human species? And an example of punishment may be war, disease, etc. He'll somehow get back at you.. he specifically laid out a list of guidelines for His children to follow. Also, I am well aware that science does not just revolve around robotics, but that's the only area where we can create actual life. I'm not saying God did it all the time, but you will know when He did it or not. When people think of supernatural miracles, they think of a strange entity walking the face of the earth, but like Junhoes said, God works in many ways including working through another person to reward another.
I've gone on and off of Christianity throughout my life in a sense that I have always had doubts, but I have also sincerely believed with all of my heart longer than I have not. It feels like far more than simply a phase to me because I feel as though the reasons I have for going towards non-belief are justified/emotionally deep seated. The process has been painful as hell for me, though.
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you wake up every morning, that in and of itself is a miracle
@Matt Were you reborn twice? At times, I am unsure of my faith in God, but I'm back on my feet in no time after I surround myself with other Christians. Maybe for you, it takes longer for you to get out of that phase(:
Correct me if I'm wrong, Satan, but I thought monotheistic religions came out first?
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HOW would he "punish" people, or "reward" people. HOW might he do this? And science is not just electronics, biology is the study of life... How was life first created? I'm not sure, I think it may have involved a lot of chance and highly unlikely circumstances coalescing, but the very unlikely is no miracle, and how is "God did it" a valid explanation. Precisely HOW could he do all the things you describe? Just a vague divine form of intervention into our physically governed universe?
I guess that I could never fathom why it's okay for people to eternally suffer for not believing in one specific God when the world is so vast, confusing and filled with different religions. We can't even begin to understand how long eternity is, and suffering endlessly forever and ever seems terrifying to me.
Matt, you might think that, but I assure you that's not the case. Even if it was the case, it should still not stop you from saving yourself from eternal suffering.
I understand where you're coming from. Faith can be hard to maintain and I respect those who do have it. I think what was sobering to me is when I realized that one of my friends raised in another religion was destined to burn in Hell in my eyes, and I was destined to burn in Hell in his. It's a tough issue and I get that it feels pretty powerless.
