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Does God exist?

over 9 years

I'm taking a survey for my Harvard PhD thesis.

Does God exist?
73
Yes
67
No
36
Not sure
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If God is so real how come he never called me handsome
over 9 years
I worship a god named Lady GaGa.
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The existence of the idea of a thing is not the same as the existence of the thing itself. I can easily imagine the greatest x or y or z but it doesn't mean these hypothetical x, y, zs exist.

Also in regards to being incapable of imagining something better than God, I don't even need to imagine, it's called pizza.
over 9 years
New poll : how many people have changed whether they believe in a god or not based on the arguments in this thread? The results won't surprise you at all.
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the ontological argument is the worst one of all and you'll convince no-one with it
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This needs to be more than 5 characters long
over 9 years
do you need another time out?
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I am sorry Arcbell you are debating me. That is not the point of this thread. Why don't you go make your own thread about your opinion on St. Anselm's ontological proof
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Explain how otherwise you are just calling the syllogism wrong without an explanation which in itself is bad logic.
over 9 years
shiggyshaggy u tellin me ∞+1's a real number
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shiggyshaggy says

[Even a] fool, when he hears of … a being than which nothing greater can be conceived … understands what he hears, and what he understands is in his understanding.… And assuredly that, than which nothing greater can be conceived, cannot exist in the understanding alone. For suppose it exists in the understanding alone: then it can be conceived to exist in reality; which is greater.… Therefore, if that, than which nothing greater can be conceived, exists in the understanding alone, the very being, than which nothing greater can be conceived, is one, than which a greater can be conceived. But obviously this is impossible. Hence, there is no doubt that there exists a being, than which nothing greater can be conceived, and it exists both in the understanding and in reality.

The argument in this difficult passage can accurately be summarized in standard form:

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It is a conceptual truth (or, so to speak, true by definition) that God is a being than which none greater can be imagined (that is, the greatest possible being that can be imagined).

God exists as an idea in the mind.

A being that exists as an idea in the mind and in reality is, other things being equal, greater than a being that exists only as an idea in the mind.

Thus, if God exists only as an idea in the mind, then we can imagine something that is greater than God (that is, a greatest possible being that does exist).

But we cannot imagine something that is greater than God (for it is a contradiction to suppose that we can imagine a being greater than the greatest possible being that can be imagined.)

Therefore, God exists.


circular and bad logic
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Harvard.....HA

What a Godless school
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[Even a] fool, when he hears of … a being than which nothing greater can be conceived … understands what he hears, and what he understands is in his understanding.… And assuredly that, than which nothing greater can be conceived, cannot exist in the understanding alone. For suppose it exists in the understanding alone: then it can be conceived to exist in reality; which is greater.… Therefore, if that, than which nothing greater can be conceived, exists in the understanding alone, the very being, than which nothing greater can be conceived, is one, than which a greater can be conceived. But obviously this is impossible. Hence, there is no doubt that there exists a being, than which nothing greater can be conceived, and it exists both in the understanding and in reality.

The argument in this difficult passage can accurately be summarized in standard form:

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It is a conceptual truth (or, so to speak, true by definition) that God is a being than which none greater can be imagined (that is, the greatest possible being that can be imagined).

God exists as an idea in the mind.

A being that exists as an idea in the mind and in reality is, other things being equal, greater than a being that exists only as an idea in the mind.

Thus, if God exists only as an idea in the mind, then we can imagine something that is greater than God (that is, a greatest possible being that does exist).

But we cannot imagine something that is greater than God (for it is a contradiction to suppose that we can imagine a being greater than the greatest possible being that can be imagined.)

Therefore, God exists.
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You don't go to Harvard isiot
over 9 years
I believe in God, but he's not christian, jewish or moslem. It's my own reliegion.
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idk abt god but i believe in an afterlife
over 9 years
http://autosummarizer.com/index.php
Works pretty well, actually.
over 9 years

uglypigman says

Could you possibly summarise your point in less than 3 sentences, thank you.


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Could you possibly summarise your point in less than 3 sentences, thank you.
over 9 years
Answer is no. Also, lol this thread and the shitposting here is absolutely incredible.
over 9 years
He agrees with and then downvotes my post because he is too lazy to read.

I think he is.
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I don't think it's him who is the idiot here
over 9 years

evolpz says

god isnt real face it


I know long text can be scary, but sometimes you have to excel past the reading level of a first grader so you don't end up looking like an idiot through posts like these. My posts above essentially agree with you.
over 9 years
god isnt real face it
over 9 years
is it time to rumble?