Epicmafia

Ruse and their dastardly deeds

almost 11 years

Hey mods. Can someone sort out Ruse?

I've been sitting in lobby waiting for this Poker game to start(https://epicmafia.com/game/4116881 - join up, we need one more!), and Burtonx has started about 4 setups trying to get his gold hearts played. But there's a problem - there is always another setup and it's hosted by Ruse players. At the moment it's prezabama and emiliewu.

However, take a look at the top two Ruse players this round, messi4life and yehet21. Every single one of their last 10 games has been played with multiple other Ruse players: Messi(2 others, 2, 2, 3, 1, 3, 2, 2, 1, 3, 3) and yehet21(3 others, 4, 4, 4, 2, 1, 3, 2, 2, 1, 3).

So as I see it, we have an issue with this family. There are at least two players who are noticeably suspect: Messi and Yehet. They have ignored the mods rule that Ruse players shouldn't play comp together, and have instead consistently continued playing with an average of 2(Messi) and 3(Yehet) other Ruse players in their games.

Meanwhile, burton, Emilie, and Prez(all of whom have played in at least one of those last 10 games above), are making multiple comp setups in an effort to comply with the mod ruling.

Clearly Yehet and Messi shouldn't be allowed to play with other Ruse players, and the approach to the others should possibly be relaxed.

blacksnakemoan

almost 11 years

Bump. Burton's been unbanned, but the others who were good haven't.

blacksnakemoan

almost 11 years

snowflake276728 says

THE ONLY REASON YEHET21 IS LOSING IS BECAUSE YOU GRUDGE HAMMER

I didn't grudge lynch anyone Snow. I re-read and I thought Rezi was townier. I don't grudge lynch, especially when I'm risking my own points on it.

snowflake276728

almost 11 years

THE ONLY REASON YEHET21 IS LOSING IS BECAUSE YOU GRUDGE HAMMER

xxerox

almost 11 years

Nedliv should leave this site. He is cancer.

Tinkerer

almost 11 years

I mean, could be, but I' don't think "meta" is really cheating. A lot of people have the same kind of habits when they're mafia or town, and usually unconsciously. I know some players like speedrunner have a really good memory for this sort of thing (or a notebook, who knows), it's all part of the game. It's pretty unavoidable if you're playing around the same time of day and it's not specific to this family. Were the competitive player pool bigger than it is, then maybe the restriction would make sense, but it isn't.

yehet21

almost 11 years

Hey blacksnakemoan
Look into my last three comp losses.
First loss) I was n1ed.
Second loss) I woke up loudmouth as sleepwalker and was thus lynched day 1.
Third loss) I was n1ed again.
Now, you tell me, how the hell am I responsible for those losses? I never made it to day 1 2/3 times.
And the three games before that I won and actually got to play.

blacksnakemoan

almost 11 years

Tinkerer says

This just means golden heart games around a certain time of day don't get filled. Dumb. Just ban them if you think they're cheating, otherwise let the games go on. This situation is wishy-washy and awkward as hell.

Tbh, ban Messi and Yehet, purely because they stopped playing with Ruse players and suddenly lost all their games. That's suss on its own.

Tinkerer

almost 11 years

This just means golden heart games around a certain time of day don't get filled. Dumb. Just ban them if you think they're cheating, otherwise let the games go on. This situation is wishy-washy and awkward as hell.