Mods please make it gamethrowing to demand the hammer and mishammer.
Things that can be gained from leading lynches:
Bad clears can no longer vote people for making them emotional/being uncooperative
Confirm your reads with town for more reads
A chance to stop a clear from mishammering
Bad clears can't strongarm bad lynches
Games become less dependent on rolling decent clears
Mafia get a chance to do something other than appeal to the clear
Most of all if you were playing mafia with your friends (assuming you understand what this means) you wouldn't focus solely on clears, so this site shouldn't either.
Make it gamethrowing
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when a clear demands hammer only to lynch wrong. This should include but not being limited to spamming for selfs, asking for selfs, stating they have reads for selfs, demanding selfs, etc. etc.
yeah, i've been attempting to do this, i even did it yesterday invdl i i hammered stalker day 1. then i told town they could have the lynch on day 3, they spent 15 minutes fosing no one basically, two of them kept insisting i hammered then at kicks ediz asked me for hammer but iwas like nah screw it u guys fukd up them i mishammered 2 in a row
i think if more players were to work at improving the meta, it would improve.
unfortunately, for good players this means when you're clear you have to hand the reigns to potential nonclears or those you don't trust even as town. that's why the meta developed the way it did
To be fairly honest this is stupid. Clears leading or hammering is part of the game, especially when they might know an extra thing from prs, like in TEO. Or they want to hammer someone who everyone townreads. Bad play isn't a vio and never will be one.
I know it'll get a bw. Change the meta. Revolution. Just keep refusing to self vote and people will get sick of lynching you for a reason (if you flip town). etc. etc. I'll reiterate that I do agree with what you're saying but I don't see them changing it.
My response. Basically you make 1 good point about not relying on clears, but you're still an idiot because the way you want to go about it is unfeasible and irrational because it alienates a whole bunch of people
Go try this, see how well it works out for you. This is one of the few things that leads to a bandwagon in this meta and it will be against you every time.
I don't get people like you. If you're content to be mediocre so be it, but don't expect everyone to just accept point farming practices as the core mafia experience on this site. You're in every thread I make crying about how you think I feel and never posting anything relevant to the topic.
This thread has nothing to do with FP. If you disagree with something in the OP say so, otherwise stop being a child.
I blatantly refuse to play setups with more than 3/4 blues because people don't get that you can play to win as an unclear. It's conventional 'wisdom' amongst FP players that no one can actually scumhunt and everyone just gets lucky. It's so dumb that game to game meta between players is dead because that's the only way a setup like this works between players.
This isn't what happens at all, and if you'd play FP for any extended period of time you wouldn't make this post. This isn't meant to punish every clear ever, just the ones that demand the hammer moments after they're clear and then kill off the last person they should have gone after. I win a majority of my mafia games due to this and its a meta fit for people only content to pointfarm.
Go play your own setup that you're so fond of and see how many people volunteer foses without you having to rip their teeth of for them to do so.
Just cross with someone. Give a fos then vote them. If a clear says self vote, say no I only vote who I think is mafia and I know I'm not mafia etc. etc. I don't see it getting changed to GT. I agree with what you're saying but I think the mods are just going to tell you to play differently... my 3 cents
He posts the same stupid post 100 times a day about how to improve EM, how EM needs to get rid of FP and how everyone sucks and he's the greatest. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
