Epicmafia

over 9 years

Markus says

but yes @kawarimi can you please confirm that we have never once spoken outside of an epicmafia game, not even in forums or personal messages or anything. but especially not on skype or any other social networks.

We never talked outside of en EM game, Mods can check the messages send to other people i assume?

deletedover 9 years

this patebin is not bad. It actually shows a lot. enough to convict them.

Giga13

over 9 years

Slow says

moreover, who cares how many games there are. they could've cheated in just one game and that's enough for a cheating vio.

you have a point there

i showed what i believe to be (and had multiple people agree with me on) convincing evidence. the way i see it, i've already done the legwork for mods to ban a cheater, but if billstickers is posting here, the ship has sailed.

don't be so sure

deletedover 9 years

Giga13 says

Slow says

Devante says

the pastebin literally showed half of the games they played together, and came up with the conclusion that they cheated haha nice

out of 32 games, i posted 14. half of the ones i didn't post were unranked n1s, the other half were like "kawa and sukram roll mafia together" or "kawa gets n1'd and the sukram gets lynched d1".

you should have included these because it would have made it easier to present the full case without any anymosity

i'd rather just post the incriminating games than post the games that don't matter. if someone wants to see things that are irrelevant to me pushing forward a cheating case, they can find the games on their own, imho.

deletedover 9 years

moreover, who cares how many games there are. they could've cheated in just one game and that's enough for a cheating vio. i showed what i believe to be (and had multiple people agree with me on) convincing evidence. the way i see it, i've already done the legwork for mods to ban a cheater, but if billstickers is posting here, the ship has sailed.

Giga13

over 9 years

Slow says

Devante says

the pastebin literally showed half of the games they played together, and came up with the conclusion that they cheated haha nice

out of 32 games, i posted 14. half of the ones i didn't post were unranked n1s, the other half were like "kawa and sukram roll mafia together" or "kawa gets n1'd and the sukram gets lynched d1".

you should have included these because it would have made it easier to present the full case without any animosity

deletedover 9 years

Devante says

the pastebin literally showed half of the games they played together, and came up with the conclusion that they cheated haha nice

out of 32 games, i posted 14. half of the ones i didn't post were unranked n1s, the other half were like "kawa and sukram roll mafia together" or "kawa gets n1'd and the sukram gets lynched d1".

justrec

over 9 years

cheaters??? who cares!

justrec

over 9 years

it sure is nice not caring about anything.

deletedover 9 years

the pastebin literally showed half of the games they played together, and came up with the conclusion that they cheated haha nice

deletedover 9 years

something a mod probably said in mod chat: "bear's really biased here :///" even though i stand to gain approximately nothing from this

Giga13

over 9 years

Please Toast My Buns

Giga13

over 9 years

mods please do what is right and **** me in the ***

deletedover 9 years

it's also probably going to get NV'd because zhuorb's inv got NV'd and that was the most obvious example of abc throwing for a dude that i've ever seen on this website

deletedover 9 years

but yes @kawarimi can you please confirm that we have never once spoken outside of an epicmafia game, not even in forums or personal messages or anything. but especially not on skype or any other social networks.

and yeah i didn't expect it from pranay either to accuse us of cheating as i had played a lot of games with him too, but what can you expect from an anyway.

Giga13

over 9 years

well i don't know

there appears to be conflict in mod opinion

one way or another i'm ready to take the #fifthfourth in the butt

deletedover 9 years

i don't post bad bins. he's probably going to get NV'd even though i checked it with two other mods and they agreed with me

Giga13

over 9 years

the pastebin actually doesn't prove he didn't cheat either though

there's probably another one being done by mods

deletedover 9 years

Slow's pastebin is sorta like that Tom Brady investigation, just a bunch of circumstantial evidence leading to the conclusion: It's more probable than not that he cheated just cuz

Giga13

over 9 years

slow no offense or anything but your bin is kinda bad

deletedover 9 years

EraldoCoil says

I don't know if he cheated or not but he has a point. Slow said i don't deserve 4th or 5th place. Let me tell you something Slow. I joined EM this year in february and since then i tried to learn everything all by myself. After 4 months i almost have 40 000 points and a pretty good pie. I am still learning and i'm trying to improve myself. I played in 3 rounds so far and in the previous 2 i finished in the top 15. In this one i finished with both my accounts in top 7 (Deneuve is my alt btw) So how can you say i don't deserve to be there? You don't even know me. Why are you people so selfcentered and rude with others?

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Why do you have to be mean? You said i don't deserve 3rd place. I get it, you're a veteran and a good player but why can't someone new learn and try to do improve and win a trophy. This round i did my best and i got both my accounts to top 7. Deneuve is my alt btw, so i think i did well. Btw , i joined this site in february 2015 and i got to 40 000 points without putting a lot of effort. SO please, before you say something mean about a person try to be in their shoes for once. I have nothing against you, take care!

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You should read it

pranay7744

over 9 years

hey kawa, you could find only one game where you lynched markus and that was when it didnt matter. this pastebin by slow makes this an open and shut case.

deletedover 9 years

YAY KAWA YOU ARE HERE!!!!!

yeah the accusation is completely ridiculous and i have been trying my best to shut all the accusations down

Beast

over 9 years

u know what we call people like Slow?
A sore loser

I remember a game with Slow and it was d3 i believe with 4 people left , slow being the PR and 2 townies (including me) and 1 mafia.

The other townie which was clear said i was town and he had to hammer the other guy (slow went afk , i believe) and when slow got back he said..I dont care im not rereading this game and hammered me and we both lost.

12/10 player.

Beast

over 9 years

I played alot of games with Sukram cause i usually play EM on work (SCUMBAG) and its 1-5pm (GMT+1) and Markus/Sukram lives in NZ which is like 8-12pm?

I believe most of the EM users are from USA/Europe and most games are hosted in the night (my time).

This is the reason we played lots of games together, also with BearGuru and Betmen. I got no idea where they are from but i played LOADS of games with Sukram/Betmen.

I see zhuorb active in this forum, i remember a game where i was cop with Zhuorb (town) and Espeon (Mafia) on the last day. Markus was a town in Graveyard yet i hammered Zhuorb and we both lost. (i didn't see this game in the pastebin)

But there were plenty of games where me and markus hammered eachother and Both lost.

Why is Pranay even against me in this topic aswell? I've played plenty of Comp games with him and i didn't expect him to acuse me of cheating..

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