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Armed and Dangerous

almost 10 years

This setup was blacklisted from competition because it was over played.

Because it was very popular.

The variants will never be as good as this one

There are other setups that we comp and have similar payouts

Payouts are dependent on the chances of winning of the alignment. So the payouts are fine.

I guess it is time that we allowed Armed and dangerous again. It has been banned for a long time.

It was banned without any violations. It did not even bypass.

Free Armed and Dangerous
15 signed
Because it is the most popular setup
Free Armed and Dangerous. It did nothing wrong.
17
I love Armed and dangerous, free it
5
I am a bad player
almost 10 years
It was blacklisted because it was comped every time someone won a trophy. Then bronto had a very bad experience with that setup and he went on a crusade to ban it. He got support from 2 mods in mod team and he counted it as 5 because he counted himself worth 3. So they banned it.
deletedalmost 10 years
jan 2.0 is over played please ban
almost 10 years
PAYOUTS ARE LITERALLY THE WORST ARGUMENT EVER. CUT IT OUT
almost 10 years
It wasn't blacklisted due to being popular. It was blacklisted because of it's payout. You're also fairly bad if you believe that I get through rounds by playing with friends.
almost 10 years
It is fair, because to win on this setup as town you need to be good. If you win as mafia you do not get as much points. You get the points you deserve. You are bad so you do not want good players to do good on this setup. You are afraid that your competition will do good. You do not always flip town. If you do flip town, it is not easy to get those 70 points. And it has been banned for a long time. Only reason was over playing of this setup. No harm in having it once in 3 rounds or once in 6 rounds. Only the people who are afraid and play with friends to get through competition fear their competition. It is not just about the competition. It is also about the fun we have on this setup.
almost 10 years
A&D has disgusting payouts and makes it a nightmare for it to be in the round if you're intending to run on anything else. Average setup winrate is not relevant to setup winrate with particular players in the table. If you manage to scrape together a consistent record on that setup then you blow your competition out of the water. Which just isn't fair.

This was a large issue for a long period of time and it was finally fixed by disallowing setups with over a certain point skew - and you have to admit, this setup, as a setup, is not balanced.
deletedalmost 10 years
both options in the poll apply to me, but yeah there's no reason for it to be bl'd.