I think winning a trophy on an established competitive setup is pretty hard to do.

negged

Also a better person to use for the "If X can win a trophy, then so can anyone" is Valen14

if you commit yourself you can win easily

FoodLion says

Sims says

she's smart enough to win a trophy, but it doesn't take much to win one IMO. most players can

;_;

same ;_;

This thread wouldn't have had a strong as message if the puns were not used.

you've won one

Sims says

she's smart enough to win a trophy, but it doesn't take much to win one IMO. most players can

yeah especially if people comp bad setups. there have been a lot of awful setups comped recently.

Sims says

she's smart enough to win a trophy, but it doesn't take much to win one IMO. most players can

;_;

Lashka says

Yes, I've played with her. Going by her record of failures without cheating, and having to cheat to get close, I continue to beg to differ.

like i said, i think the skill is there, but it's a matter of being able to handle the pressure in the clutch that makes the difference when going for a trophy.

I suppose if she ran every round without cheating she'd win by statistics though.

if scholsey can win, anyone can

Yes, I've played with her. Going by her record of failures without cheating, and having to cheat to get close, I continue to beg to differ.

she's smart enough to win a trophy, but it doesn't take much to win one IMO. most players can

Lashka says

"Prevail is certainly capable of doing so without cheating" - I frankly beg to differ here but I will roll with everything else you said.

I mean have you ever played with her? I played a number of games with her after she was unbanned and I thought she played well. I don't know her well enough if she's the type who will fold under pressure during the critical points of a run, but I think she's good enough to do it.

I won a trophy and I consider myself to be pretty mediocre. I think it's pretty possible for anyone decent at mafia to win a trophy if they can keep cool under pressure.

"Prevail is certainly capable of doing so without cheating" - I frankly beg to differ here but I will roll with everything else you said.

Sims says

hedger and rawrarrior never fosed each other either. clearly that means the evidence is unsubstantial

i checked their logs, they never chatted in-game. It is remarkably sketchy when that happens though. I do think it's a bit silly how much stock we all put into skype when there are zillions of other ways to communicate outside of game, though. But given what I saw there really wasn't anything to suggest anything beyond subconscious meta abuse.

Btw if this turns out to be true (There's some very damning evidence), I'm pretty disappointed in them both. I was fine with giving Prevail another chance considering most of what she was infamous for happened before I joined the site and I personally don't like to write people off for things they did before I knew them. Call it naivety, but I didn't think it was fair to extend her ban when there was no concrete proof of her cheating or evading since being banned last. The only evasion that was caught she had served before the unban. As far as the "I told you so" bit, it's not like I had placed stock in her behavior. I'd like to assume the best of people and don't think it's cool to simply assume they can never change, because that's the last thing I want people to assume of me.

Cheating is really annoying because when you do it, all you do is waste other peoples' time. I commend riot for putting in the effort to look into this because I know cheating investigations are really daunting and can be a major waste of time if nothing turns up.

Roshiez won a trophy without cheating (albeit on a crap setup probably) and Prevail is certainly capable of doing so without it (not sure if she had won legitimately before). I just don't see the motivation here. All in all it's pretty disappointing if this turns out to be true. We'll see what the mods decide after reviewing all of this. I'd need to reread it again more closely to pass my own judgment on it.

touch my weenie.

reminder that projectmatt was invited to bad boyz, but then left for a family called rainbows inside.

*** you kvo

I like how this thread is a cheating accusation but riot made it so freaking cut and dry that by page 9 it's just a circlejerk

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