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Burden of Dreams (Get Shorty)

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I am a grown man who just had my feelings hurt. I am 24 years old, I have a house, a job, a car and a beautiful fiancé. I also have the need to be validated by teenagers on the internet. I have played mafia on this site off and on for years and I still love it. I love the game itself and I begrudgingly enjoy the community as well. On this site I have two simple dreams. The first and least important to me of the two, is to win a trophy. I came close once but got discouraged towards the end and completely gave up after some personal things (like getting engaged) fully required my attention. My second dream, is to create a setup that will become embraced by the comp scene.

Now, I'm an adult, and I am capable of separating the truth from my ego as much as anyone else. If I create a bad setup that isn't worthy, I can accept that. After some plays and it just isn't balancing, well, I'll take a few shots of whiskey, cry myself to sleep and start again in the morning. It is completely acceptable to me that I am capable of failing. I have failed many times, with each failed setup haunting my memory like a scorned ex-lover.

There is one thing I will not accept when it comes to this process however: to completely dismiss a setup I have made as "trash" without even playing it first. Whatever the reason is, whether it includes a role you do not like, gameplay mechanics that are foreign to you, or anything else. To completely deny the possibility of success is unacceptable to me. If you hate the setup for whatever reason, that is fine. It hurts, I'm a sensitive guy, but I can take it.

My dream is deceptively simple; to create a setup involving roles that aren't typically used in most comp setups. It's a hard nut to crack, and its even harder to determine why. Most unused roles aren't bad, they were suggested and created for a reason. It is easier for players to remain in the comfort zone of standby classics like Janitorial 2.0 and VDLI, just as red heart players stay in their comfort zone of Fancy Pants and Coco's Epic Setup.

Ultimately, your opinions mean nothing, but everything to me. I am a shameless narcissist and would obviously enjoy the positive feedback I desire for the setups I create, but all that I truly want, is a fair trial.

In closing, just play Get Shorty(https://epicmafia.com/setup/1143796) and if it isn't balanced then talk all the trash you want, until then.. well you're probably just a teenager who lives with your parents while I'm raking in the dough at my cushy job and having sex with my hot fiancé after I get done playing video games.

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Hibiki says


Slow says

any setup that is has just cop and doc for PRs sucks. hopefully this insight clears the way for future posts in this thread.


u think BV sucks? u think B2NS sucks?


i don't think they're that great as setups, but i enjoy them.
Hibiki
almost 10 years
i mean honestly https://epicmafia.com/setup/1146397 is just BV but probably worse... the dynamic is slightly different (less but more accurate report(s), mafia have an easier time making a comeback if one is lynched). but maybe you'd be as well playing BV
Renaldo
almost 10 years

Cantankerous says

I am a grown man who just had my feelings hurt. I am 24 years old, I have a house, a job, a car and a beautiful fiancé. I also have the need to be validated by teenagers on the internet.


the last one is probably the most difficult for anyone
Hibiki
almost 10 years

Slow says

any setup that is has just cop and doc for PRs sucks. hopefully this insight clears the way for future posts in this thread.


u think BV sucks? u think B2NS sucks?
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Arcbell says

Censored, I am regret to inform you that this setup has major issues as is. I can help you with your dream tho if you like. Just PM me setups and I can analysize them for U, or tell you small modifications to make it better / general directions to take.

As for this one: the n1 being heavily wifom is a big big issue. I tried it out in my mind and it had a big issue with a 50% chance deciding almost an autowin situation on either side.


Thanks Arcbell, I am definitely going to be taking you up on that offer. As for this setups failings.. it hurts, but onwards and upwards as they say.
BlackBattler
almost 10 years
that's about where I stopped reading and I feel trolled
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I am a grown man who just had my feelings hurt. I am 24 years old, I have a house, a job, a car and a beautiful fiancé. I also have the need to be validated by teenagers on the internet.
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almost 10 years
1) gay
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Arcbell
almost 10 years

Hibiki says

https://epicmafia.com/setup/1146397

i didn't even read the OP btw


You really should. It will make you do these expressions in this order:

1) O.o
2) :S
3) >.>
4) -.-
Arcbell
almost 10 years
Censored, I am regret to inform you that this setup has major issues as is. I can help you with your dream tho if you like. Just PM me setups and I can analysize them for U, or tell you small modifications to make it better / general directions to take.

As for this one: the n1 being heavily wifom is a big big issue. I tried it out in my mind and it had a big issue with a 50% chance deciding almost an autowin situation on either side.
deletedalmost 10 years
any setup that is has just cop and doc for PRs sucks. hopefully this insight clears the way for future posts in this thread.
Hibiki
almost 10 years
https://epicmafia.com/setup/1146397

i didn't even read the OP btw
Arcbell
almost 10 years

Censored says

Again, Arcbell, let me try to make myself look cool after pouring my heart out, its been an emotional afternoon


Fair enough. You are strangely honest, and I find it somewhat charming, so do your thing.
olorloser
almost 10 years
Oh my god what have I done, I gave birth to a wall of text.
deletedalmost 10 years
Again, Arcbell, let me try to make myself look cool after pouring my heart out, its been an emotional afternoon
Arcbell
almost 10 years
This thread sent me for a loop tho.
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Hibiki says

because a mass-claim forces mafia to either CC a PR or sit in a pool of 2/4 blues. with a ML that's easier than VDLI, then you've got a potential cop report if the strongman gets lynched...


I see what you mean.. another intention of the setup was for pap to cc lazy cop, and if he gets lynched, he reveals (hopefully) bg to strongman, which would take down another pr, leaving 3 blue claims left, one gets lynched, he kills cop for 3 way with 2 blue claims and celeb
Arcbell
almost 10 years

Sims says

you almost came off as nice and sincere until the last paragraph

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Renaldo says

8man setups with 3 PRs lean townsided, a blue death improves town's odds of winning.


I was hoping lazy cop would balance out the townsidedness a bit..
deletedalmost 10 years
what is this thread
Hibiki
almost 10 years
because a mass-claim forces mafia to either CC a PR or sit in a pool of 2/4 blues. with a ML that's easier than VDLI, then you've got a potential cop report if the strongman gets lynched...
Renaldo
almost 10 years
8man setups with 3 PRs lean townsided, a blue death improves town's odds of winning.
deletedalmost 10 years
well thats what I intended the bg to be, a deterrent to killing the celeb, as the pap might die a result. also I don't see how blue dying n1 is town auto yet
Hibiki
almost 10 years
you might as well replace celeb with blue and strongman with nilla/paparazzi. honestly, that's not a bad setup but it's probably a bit too bland for you
Hibiki
almost 10 years
actually, this isn't that great. mafia are forced to kill the celeb n1 as a blue death basically gives town the game. a player with their only role being death is pretty poor design wise