For all of those who play VDLI, how many times did you orc the fellow pr? The answer should be 0. That should be the same in WwtW! The reason why you shouldn't orc the watcher is that town will hopefully do a reasonable cc with the watcher/watched, and the person that you orc'd will be naked to have the hammer. This is also giving a guarantee for a clear in f3 if the watcher is real as the naked blue will be left. I'm getting tired of stupid orcs who orc the other pr and let maf an extra advantage when they don't need to.
You should ALWAYS orc watcher if there is only ONE mafia left. It's guaranteed auto win because either janitor is revealed with watcher janned, or the real watcher is revealed and saw the only maf visit the orc. With TWO mafia left, orc anyone but the watcher. If watcher is still alive by the final day even with orc gone, town should be able to put up a good decision on whether it's maf watcher or if maf left watcher alive for wifom.
If there's one mafia left then the watcher claim guiltying someone is autowin anyway?
Watcher could be janned obviously.
There's a ML so if watcher's janned and scum's fake guilty is lynched, the scum that fake claimed watcher gets lynched the next day. Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the former.
I dislike the whole "PR claims PR" method of the setup. If watcher's janned it's a 1/5 chance to lynch scum D1 while giving scum influence on the lynch.
deletedabout 10 years
You should ALWAYS orc watcher if there is only ONE mafia left. It's guaranteed auto win because either janitor is revealed with watcher janned, or the real watcher is revealed and saw the only maf visit the orc. With TWO mafia left, orc anyone but the watcher. If watcher is still alive by the final day even with orc gone, town should be able to put up a good decision on whether it's maf watcher or if maf left watcher alive for wifom.
If there's one mafia left then the watcher claim guiltying someone is autowin anyway?
Watcher could be janned obviously.
then you friggin lynch him the next day dimwit.
deletedabout 10 years
You should ALWAYS orc watcher if there is only ONE mafia left. It's guaranteed auto win because either janitor is revealed with watcher janned, or the real watcher is revealed and saw the only maf visit the orc. With TWO mafia left, orc anyone but the watcher. If watcher is still alive by the final day even with orc gone, town should be able to put up a good decision on whether it's maf watcher or if maf left watcher alive for wifom.
If there's one mafia left then the watcher claim guiltying someone is autowin anyway?
You should ALWAYS orc watcher if there is only ONE mafia left. It's guaranteed auto win because either janitor is revealed with watcher janned, or the real watcher is revealed and saw the only maf visit the orc. With TWO mafia left, orc anyone but the watcher. If watcher is still alive by the final day even with orc gone, town should be able to put up a good decision on whether it's maf watcher or if maf left watcher alive for wifom.
If there's one mafia left then the watcher claim guiltying someone is autowin anyway?
You should ALWAYS orc watcher if there is only ONE mafia left. It's guaranteed auto win because either janitor is revealed with watcher janned, or the real watcher is revealed and saw the only maf visit the orc. With TWO mafia left, orc anyone but the watcher. If watcher is still alive by the final day even with orc gone, town should be able to put up a good decision on whether it's maf watcher or if maf left watcher alive for wifom.
yeah, because if he's real and you didnt lynch the mafia day 1, you're in a great position
if both prs are alive d2 and you can still orc, you have lynched exactly 1 mafia (should have said n3, but ns are confusing because of dawnstarts). watcher has no reason not to be on you. if mafia is in blues watcher will have maf and will also be clear. if watcher is mafia he'll be naked maf.
if you orc blue, fake watcher can push on fake guilty, fake blue can push on janned watcher.
optimal play as oracle is to oracle the person you want removed from the game by the next day
they...won't necessarily be removed from the game in wwtw, though. entirely possible they end up cleared and having hammer on lylo, and there are some people you absolutely do not want to hand that task to