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released from prison early, but...

Riddler
about 10 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-4zamzySJQ

This guy, at 20, was convicted of two armed robberies and given a 98 year sentence, served 8 years and was released due to a clerical error, lived 6 years as a free man, got married and had kids, then was forced to finish the sentence.

There are arguments on both sides of this. Should he or should he not be forced to finish the sentence?

What do you think?
29
Let him be free
6
Force him to finish his 90 Years
5
Give him a shorter sentence of some sort
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Apostasy says

98 years for robbery is really steep in the first place. People get out in under a decade for murder.


no they don't
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98 years for robbery is really steep in the first place. People get out in under a decade for murder.
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Clarkeboi says


Slow says

i for one think we should give people "freedom trial periods" where if they commit horrible stuff such as robbery and kidnappin' they should get a freedom trial period where they try being free for a while. if they succeed and act like a Cool Citizen, we shouldn't reprison them. but if they recidivate, then i guess what's the big loss haha


that doesn't make sense because they KNOW they're being watched which gives them more incentive to be better

if you do the crime, do the time



i was being facetious, you've been trolled.
Clarkeboi
about 10 years

Slow says

i for one think we should give people "freedom trial periods" where if they commit horrible stuff such as robbery and kidnappin' they should get a freedom trial period where they try being free for a while. if they succeed and act like a Cool Citizen, we shouldn't reprison them. but if they recidivate, then i guess what's the big loss haha


that doesn't make sense because they KNOW they're being watched which gives them more incentive to be better

if you do the crime, do the time
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i for one think we should give people "freedom trial periods" where if they commit horrible stuff such as robbery and kidnappin' they should get a freedom trial period where they try being free for a while. if they succeed and act like a Cool Citizen, we shouldn't reprison them. but if they recidivate, then i guess what's the big loss haha
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Clarkeboi says

had this clerical error not occurred would any of you who wants him to be free think twice about his sentencing and the fact that he is still in jail?


probably not considering it would not have made the news :-)


EmmerrLouise says


Slow says


Mirasical says

why the hell is it 98 years for an armed robbery lmao


consecutive sentences plus this probably was a southern court


If you live in a country where the standard sentence for an armed robbery is 49 years, I feel bad for you man.


i guess you just don't know what multiple counts of robbery and kidnapping translates to in the crj system
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Slow says

you can't really say he shouldn't have to finish the 90 years if you can't contest the original ruling.



Slow says

you can't really say he shouldn't have to finish the 90 years if you can't contest the original ruling.



Slow says

you can't really say he shouldn't have to finish the 90 years if you can't contest the original ruling.



Slow says

you can't really say he shouldn't have to finish the 90 years if you can't contest the original ruling.



Slow says

you can't really say he shouldn't have to finish the 90 years if you can't contest the original ruling.



Slow says

you can't really say he shouldn't have to finish the 90 years if you can't contest the original ruling.



Slow says

you can't really say he shouldn't have to finish the 90 years if you can't contest the original ruling.



Slow says

you can't really say he shouldn't have to finish the 90 years if you can't contest the original ruling.



Slow says

you can't really say he shouldn't have to finish the 90 years if you can't contest the original ruling.



Slow says

you can't really say he shouldn't have to finish the 90 years if you can't contest the original ruling.



Slow says

you can't really say he shouldn't have to finish the 90 years if you can't contest the original ruling.



Slow says

you can't really say he shouldn't have to finish the 90 years if you can't contest the original ruling.

DarkSkull
about 10 years
America is a first world equivalent of a third world country.
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he should not be forced to finish sentence
EmmerrLouise
about 10 years

Slow says


Mirasical says

why the hell is it 98 years for an armed robbery lmao


consecutive sentences plus this probably was a southern court


If you live in a country where the standard sentence for an armed robbery is 49 years, I feel bad for you man.
Lizor
about 10 years

Slow says


Lizor says

well if we're freeing petri, might as well free him too.


bad post imo


yeah well no one really cares about your opinion kid.
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He was imprisoned for 98 years for kidnapping?

Woooooow.


In New Zealand you can get charged and found guilty of murder and only get like, 5 years in jail.

Not sure whose laws are worse; the 98-year sentence for two armed robberies or the 5 year sentence for murder.
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Satan says

the american justice system sucks because people who are innocent are put to death a lot


Americans aren't innocent.
Clarkeboi
about 10 years
what about the other people with similar sentences? shouldn't they be released early to see if they are reformed as well? of course not.
Clarkeboi
about 10 years

Satan says


Clarkeboi says

had this clerical error not occurred would any of you who wants him to be free think twice about his sentencing and the fact that he is still in jail?


no because there would be no practical evidence that he was reformed at all.

however seeing that he is a productive and not destructive member of society, it shows that he is reformed. nonetheless he should go back to jail because if u did the crime, u do the time


8 years isn't an adequate sentence for someone who committed multiple armed robberies and the transportation of hostages (kidnapping, essentially)
no matter the signs of reformation, the time served does not match the crime committed.
90 years is harsh, but 8 years is a slap on the wrist.
Satan
about 10 years

Clarkeboi says

had this clerical error not occurred would any of you who wants him to be free think twice about his sentencing and the fact that he is still in jail?


no because there would be no practical evidence that he was reformed at all.

however seeing that he is a productive and not destructive member of society, it shows that he is reformed. nonetheless he should go back to jail because if u did the crime, u do the time
Satan
about 10 years
the american justice system sucks because people who are innocent are put to death a lot
Clarkeboi
about 10 years
pls answer my question
Giga13
about 10 years
I think he should be free because he didn't do anything again, and they freed him plus he has a family now. Not like he's committed crimes after the fact or anything
Apuleio
about 10 years
I would let him free, but if you do that you should give to every jailed person the opportunity to show that you changed your life and that you wont do it an other way. Give it just to him is too discriminatory
Clarkeboi
about 10 years
had this clerical error not occurred would any of you who wants him to be free think twice about his sentencing and the fact that he is still in jail?
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eaglesbaby says

This man has proven that he can be an upstanding citizen. He should absolutely not be held accountable for a clerical error.

Sign the petition to have him released:
https://www.change.org/p/john-w-suthers-release-rene-lima-marin/sponsors/new


a change.org petition can't really overrule the criminal justice system at least imho
Laexio
about 10 years
how do 2 concurrent sentences lasting 8 years add up to 2 consecutive sentences lasting 98 years?
Laexio
about 10 years

Riddler says


Laexio says

THAT WOMAN HAS ANNOYING BREASTS


Trisha Hershberger is a beautiful woman you are crazy.


hershberger sounds like a right jewish name
eaglesbaby
about 10 years
This man has proven that he can be an upstanding citizen. He should absolutely not be held accountable for a clerical error.

Sign the petition to have him released:
https://www.change.org/p/john-w-suthers-release-rene-lima-marin/sponsors/new