Basically Satan questioned God's right to rule mankind. Since then many men have questioned God's right to rule mankind. Man tries to rule themselves, and look at the results. We have a multitude of corruption, hypocrisy, and evil, all from our leaders no less! With time, this evil world will end up destroying itself, which is what God will step in to stop, after finally proving that Mankind is incapable of ruling itself.
Matthew 24:21,22
"21 for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short."
“Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin” (Psalms 109:6-7).
This statement reaffirms the idea that Satan is God’s prosecutor, identifying the sins of man. In the same book Satan is blamed when David takes an unlawful census (1 Chronicles 21:1), but another account of the same story clarifies that it was God who made David take the census – possibly through His agent ha-satan (2 Samuel 21:1).
But the most interesting is the reference found in the book of Zechariah, which shows, in part, the evolution of Satan from God’s angel and prosecutor to a being of evil and impurity.
“And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire? (Zechariah 3:1-2).
For the first time in the Torah we have Satan resisting God and God rebuking Satan, not as His servant, but as something contrary to God. A Satan resisting God’s will and in need of rebuke runs counter to the teachings in Isaiah, Job, Ecclesiastes and Deuteronomy, all of which credit God with the exclusive control over good and evil.
Given the above theme, it’s probably no surprise that the book of Zechariah was set after the Babylonian exile and during the rebuilding of the Temple of Jerusalem, during the reign of the Persians. One of the book’s dominant themes is the imminent start of the messianic age as seen through multiple visions, another indication of strong Persian influence, within Zechariah’s writings.
Again...the Jews do not believe in an sort of devilish creature that was conjured up by the Greco-Romans in the New Testament. He doesn't exist in their theology and this is the only time he is mentioned as an entity in the entire book.
Believing things that you make up based on poorly interpreted knowledge you learn in Sunday School is probably why you aren't a very intelligent person.
There is no such occurrence in all of the Bible. Do some research.
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Isaiah 45:7 "I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things."
Lamentations 3:38 "Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?"
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I can see where you're coming from. But how do you explain that part in Job where God is talking to Satan about Job? (Job 1:6-12 and then again at 2:1-7).
Or is that what you mean by 'one of his minions?' Because if Satan really was just an innate evil then that wouldn't really make sense; God according to both the Old and New Testaments does not possess any evil whatsoever.
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Trips there is something comforting about looking at my -1 and knowing it is you. Thanks for lookin out for me man :)
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yeah like those robots who can't catch anything idiot robots why are you all so bad
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Nothing is God's fault. People are just bad.
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I am a Christian, and I believe Satan was an angel who wanted to be like God. They are fighting in the spirit world right now. Satan has made us also like demons, however, Jesus died for us so that all who believe in him will have eternal life.
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lol
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sorry couldnt really hear u, i think u were holding ur fedora over ur mouth or something
So basically I will sum these paragraphs up without citing a f****ing parable like I'm an idiot or something.
A: Omnipotent being makes flawed creation B: Flawed creation is not subservient C: Omnipotent being creates billions more flawed creations and sulks at how bad they are. D: Megalomaniac omnipotent punishes billions of flawed creations for being designed wrong...decides to let them suffer instead of fixing them.
This is the answer to this hypothetical question in a nutshell.
I noticed that s****y website likes to use bad, yet relatable examples.
So a better one would be a person making a robot to throw things. Instead it only caught things. So the person blames the robot and sends it to hell.
Like if I was going to take an extremely poorly transliterated book in a de-facto dead language, change all of the words with ambiguous meanings to mean what I want them to mean...no to mention that...given the fact that these people were illiterate these stories weren't even written until decades, even hundreds of years later like a game of whisper down the alley that just went on way too long.....I would totally make a mythical bogeyman out of something that was totally understood at the time to mean "accuser".
I would even give him horns and a pitchfork because munsters are scary.
The story of Adam and Eve is somewhat of a metaphor detailing humanities inherent rebellious nature against God as well as innate "evil" qualities.
It's a bit of an oxymoron when you consider "intelligent design" but, hey...plotholes tend to exist in poorly devised folk tales.
And of course, queue the zealots retconning their stupid plotholes and answering every one with an all-encompassing bogeyman who clearly does not exist within their own stupid fiction book.
Satan is nothing more than an embodiment of all that is against God.
Referring to him in anything more than the metaphoric(and nonsensical) way it is referred to in the Bible just shows ignorance and naivety.
The only reference to "Ha-Satan" in the entirety of the Old Testament was one of God's minions. Satan = Accuser
This transposed to enemy....
So A satan is simply an enemy against God. Which of course, is rather vapid to go into deep nonsense talk about how innate evil is against God and that suffering is a result of that....but the very few literate scribes that wrote these stories down thousands of years ago didn't really think these things through. Probably because they didn't really have to.
For example, the story of the Serpent in the Garden of Eden makes no logical sense. Again, there was no concept of some Lex Luthor-esque enemy against God established in all of the Old Testament, so the idea is generally a random serpent suddenly started talking and telling a woman to defy God. Out of all these perfect things in this perfect utopia for some bizarre reason God just happened to slip in an evil talking serpent...way to go YHWH.
Not to mention, the entire argument is a giant red herring and really detracts away from the fact that an alleged omnipotent "intelligently designed" a f****ed up creation just for the sake of seeing it do f****ed up things.
