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Why does God allow Suffering?

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I am going to summarize what is linked below.

Basically Satan questioned God's right to rule mankind. Since then many men have questioned God's right to rule mankind. Man tries to rule themselves, and look at the results. We have a multitude of corruption, hypocrisy, and evil, all from our leaders no less! With time, this evil world will end up destroying itself, which is what God will step in to stop, after finally proving that Mankind is incapable of ruling itself.

Matthew 24:21,22 "21 for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short."

Read paragraphs 11-18 from the following link.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/why-does-god-allow-suffering/

Any questions I will be happy to answer, knowing full well that this is the internet :)

Also for answers to other questions take a look at these:

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/introduction/

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/

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Score 1 for atheism

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Whoa lol owned again by atheism
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wow yeah. Did you know if you say God 3 times in the mirror at night in the bathroom.. he wont appear?
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I remember this thread. It is good.
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Thanks Connor. I liked that one a lot. Because homonym is a homonym of hominem
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eris says

The Quranic notion of Angels without freedom of will who exist in absolute obedience to God makes much more sense to me.


then is lucifer still an angel?
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KillHimNotMe says

ad homonym attacks.


snicker
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The Quranic notion of Angels without freedom of will who exist in absolute obedience to God makes much more sense to me.
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Why does suffering allow god?
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Did u just call every muslim in the world a satanist :s
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After reading to 2:40 I had enough. Its all nonsense.
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KillHimNotMe says


Have you guys even READ the Holy Quran?
Didn't god make a thirds covenant with Mohamed?


You make it sound like the Quran is a continuation of the bible. The Mormons say something similar.

The Quran came into existence in 610 C.E., After the books of the bible were already written.

THE QURAN, as opposed to giving new revelation, TRIES TO RETELL US US THE STORY of the bible, TWISTING AND CHANGING IT, in many ways.

The following things prove that the Quran is not in harmony with the biblical story at all.

1.) Surat 2:6 Says that it doesn't matter whether or not you tell an unbeliever about the truth or not because they will not listen anyways, which is a lie. How are you supposed to know if someone can become a believer unless you try to teach them the truth? Contrast Romans 10:13-15.

2.) Surat 2:7 Says that God has blinded the unbelievers. Why would he do that unless he does not want them to be saved? It makes much more sense when 1 Corinthians 4:3,4 explains that the God of this world, or Satan is the one blinding people. Yes Satan is the ruler of this world(1 John 5:19).

3.) Surat 2:15 Honestly, what a jerk. God should not act that way. Its no wonder you are so . . . whatever about God if you believe he is like this.

4.) Surat 2:31 says that God taught Adam all the names. Genesis 2:19 says that God let Adam name the animals.

5.) Surat 2:34 God tells the angels to bow before Adam . . . never would such a thing happen as Angels are greater than Man. Never in the bible has an angel bowed before a man, and whenever an angel is in a man's presence, the man bows before him.

6:) Surat 2:36,37 Says that God accepted Adam's repentance, when in reality, Adam never repented.

7.) Surat 2:40 Exhorts the Isrealite descendants to keep the covenant, apparently the same covenant which was in fact already fulfilled by Jesus Christ. (Matthew 5:17)

This book is a book of Lies, written by Satan.
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YUSUFALI: There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it!





Have you guys even READ the Holy Quran?
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The Quran is so dank man. Such a good read.
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PROOF that men changed the Bible, and you Chrisians have been deceived:

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YUSUFALI: But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind.
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YUSUFALI: Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.
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ALLAH (PRAISE BE UNTO HIM)

ALLAAAAAAAAHHHH OK BOK!
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There is only one God and Mihhamad is His prophet. Allah-u Akbar.
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Thunder (Al-Ra`d) 13:43, Late Meccan.

"And those who disbelieve say, `You (Muhammad) are not sent.' Say, `God is sufficient as a witness between me and you, and also he who HAS the knowledge of the book.'"
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TheFisherman says


BeauTYful says

"Yeah you're right, they were worshipping the Sun and , not because they were ignorant, but because they were intentionally hiding themselves from salvation."

They were not ignorant, instead they did realize that a being such as God did exist, and they sought after this God. They may not have known the full truth, but in God's wisdom, he may have revealed some to them. If their hearts were turned towards God, they, too would earn a place in paradise. You, on the other hand, have the privilege of hearing the gospel and yet reject it completely.


According to da xtian goD... as long as you ask for forgiveness and accept goD as your one and only God before you die he'll invite you into his bachelor pad.

Thas what imma do. Ez pz.

Ez skins
Ez lyfe


Thing is it shouldn't even be that hard, God classic used the blood of animals to temporarily paint over peoples sins (hence the demand for sacrifice), God human, the lamb of god, Jesus was the final sacrifice, the blood of the lamb of god is a permanent solution, so all sins are covered, for all time, so no one should be going to hell based on any sin.

Here are some sins that keep you out... (lolwat?)

Galatians 5:19-21
1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-11

THIS one is my favourite way of keeping people out of heaven.
Deuteronomy 23:1 (Contradicted in Isaiah 56:4)

Its funny, those two above just go to show the marketing involved in religion, Rich people that looked down on eunuchs get the "no eunuchs in heaven" bit while eunuchs get the "omg so many eunuchs in heaven and they are all rich and have names" bit
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BeauTYful says

"Your baseless and uninformed opinion on a matter you clearly know 0 things about have been noted"

This baseless statement backed by no reason, argument, premise or evidence, has been noted. I also note the grammatical error whereby the noun "opinion" should be coupled with the verb "has" instead of "have".


Wow u corrected his grammar ur so smart and edgy
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Didn't god make a thirds covenant with Mohamed?? Why are you guys still on the second covenant? You're like the backwards losers still running around with iPhone 4 lol
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English is not Edarks first language. Please stop it with the ad homonym attacks.
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Also please don't use Latin in this thread it is disrespectful
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"Your baseless and uninformed opinion on a matter you clearly know 0 things about have been noted"

This baseless statement backed by no reason, argument, premise or evidence, has been noted. I also note the grammatical error whereby the noun "opinion" should be coupled with the verb "has" instead of "have".